Nick....yes we do cut in the Quick Mount Flashings...we use a hooked carpet razor blade and the shingles cut easily...The nice thing about the QuickMount is that it is 12" wide and so even if water could come in the side it would have a long ways to go to migrate 6" over to the penetration. In addition we do use caulking in the hole we drill as well as on the lag bolt supplied with the flashing.....I like how quick they are to install versus other methods we have tried.....We purchased a "roofing bar" from AEE and find it an invaluable tool to install the Quick Mount flashings sufficiently up under the above rows of shingles in case we need to remove some nails or staples....Its nice cause it eliminates the bloody knuckle syndrome that was common before we discovered that tool.<br>
If the QuickMount rivet was broken....sounds like a defective piece.....I am sure Quickmount would replace that for you....we have never had that happen....I have not used Fast Jacks so have no experience there, but have used both Unirac 2 piece standoffs and DPW power posts both of which i like and spec out with Oatey flashings when the roof is being installed new, or replaced. We have tried the Thompson Technologies flat jack and were not impressed with its flimsy metal plate, which was prone to bow upwards like butterfly wings when tightend down and also the paint scratched off and the metal immediately began to rust. <br>
All jobs now get flashed, luckily for us all our competitors are required to do the same so it keeps the playing field level....<br><br>-- <br>Sunny Regards,<br>Kirpal Khalsa<br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV
Installer<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br><a href="http://www.oregonsolarworks.com">www.oregonsolarworks.com</a><br>541-218-0201
m<br>541-592-3958 o <br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Nick Soleil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com">nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I did a cost analysis between the TileTrac footings vs E-series Fastjacks with Oatey Solar Flashings, and found that the cost was less than $2 more. That finding is encouraging me to default to FastJacks for my standard penetrations. <br>
Kirpal:<br> Do you cut in the Quick Mount flashing, if not, it really isn't a flashing, because water can blow in the sides. I tested a Quick Mount flashing once, and when I removed the lag, the stainless steel rivet that attached the sheetmetal to the base was broken/ seperated. This made me concerned that Quick Mount was not a great solution. Also, the QuickMount is $10 more than the FastJack with Oatey method.<div class="im">
<br><div> </div>Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box
657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<div><br></div></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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We are very impressed with the Quick Mount flashed brackets......they are a solid attachment with no chance at leakage if installed properly. Easy to install, small number of tools required, and good quality. Oregon rebate programs (where we are based) are requiring all roof penetrations/attachments to be flashed. even though it is a bit more expensive, the flashed penetrations allow us to sleep well at night. we have never had a call back due to a leak with a caulk and L foot attachment, but i would expect them to fail before the flashed attachments, and in the ~30 year life expectancy of the solar modules and possibly roof, I dont have that much confidence in caulking lasting that long, even though caulking hasn't failed in 10 years, I find it hard to believe that it will last 3 times that long.....i like the idea of all components having a similar life expectancy.
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<br>Sunny Regards,<br>Kirpal Khalsa<br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer<br>Renewable
Energy Systems<br><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.oregonsolarworks.com" target="_blank">www.oregonsolarworks.com</a><br></div><div class="im">541-218-0201 m<br>541-592-3958
o<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Peter Parrish <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">IMHO the <span>TileTrack</span>
system for flat concrete tile or S-tile is the best approach there is. <span>The 3/8” SS all thread can be accommodated by a ~3/8”
hole in the tile, leaving an exceedingly narrow gap around the all-thread to caulk.</span>
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track on comp-shingle or torchdown roofs, using instead Fast-Jacks and Oatey
elastomeric flashing.</span></font></p>
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Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
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[mailto:<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick <span>Soleil</span><div class="im">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Who can help:<br>
One of our local jurisdictions, City of Petaluma, is beginning to require flashed
footings under all solar arrays. I think that some flashed footings are
better than the Unirac L feet or <span>Prosolar's</span> <span>TileTrac</span> foot, but the flashed footings cost a lot more $,
and some flashed footing products seem flawed (less watertight) They are
asking me to uninstall two commissioned systems from last week, and replace the
footings with flashed Fast Jacks, even though the documents detailed the
penetration method. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"> I am looking for some good info that
supports flexible installation methods, including caulked footings. Our
industry has come a long way from the early days of racking on slotted angle
iron with steel L-brackets for feet, but those experiences tend to give me
confidence in continuing to use caulked footings. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Nick <span>Soleil<br>
Project Manager</span><br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
PO Box 657<br>
Petaluma, CA
94953<br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037</span></font></p>
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