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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Make sure the tinned Cu wire you use is UL
listed for the purposes you intend!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</v:shape><![endif]-->Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>
Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">820 Cynthia Ave.</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">90065</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a><span
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Ph 323-258-8883, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Phil Schneider<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:24
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] bare tinned
solid copper</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'>Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We are working through submittal steps for a 75 kW ground mounted
array. The array is split into 8 <span class=SpellE>subarrays</span>.
There is a combiner or junction box at each <span class=SpellE>subarray</span>,
with a ground rod <span class=SpellE>spec'd</span> at each <span class=SpellE>subarray</span>,
underneath the "box station", with a bare stranded #6 from an
equipment grounding bus to the rod, and equipment grounding conductors through
conduit between a ground bus in each box. 15A fuses in combiners, and
100A fuses at inverter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The engineer we're working with to stamp the plans wants to see bare,
tinned, solid copper anywhere this equipment ground is in the elements, and
wants to see #2 (!) bare, tinned, solid copper <span class=SpellE>cadwelded</span>
and direct-buried between all 8 rods and back to the existing AC grounding
electrode system. He says this is the standard (from telecom, I'm afraid)
to ensure that all the rods are at the same potential. No Code reference,
and I don't see anything in article 250 along these lines. Hard to
convince him that #6, <span class=SpellE>untinned</span>, across the board is
adequate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In the end, we'll probably go ahead and do it because it is relatively
low cost and we want a good relationship here, but I'm wondering if anybody
else out there is using bare tinned copper in this type of application, and I'd
like more info on this to make a better argument next time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Phil Schneider<br>
Creative Energies<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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