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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Our
last two winters in SW Colorado have been off sun-wise. Two winters ago we got
gobs of snow [200%+ of normal] & this winter we had lots of Seattle type grey
overcast. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>We
hear from clients on extended generator run time [off grid] and reduced SHWE output.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Living
with it ourselves, I see the same and commiserate with them. Walking the talk
helps to see the changes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>We
used 12% more LP gas this winter over last and 16% more than 3 winters ago.
Life style pretty much unchanged.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I
could not imagine being able to warranty what mother nature could throw at us.
How about if we sell solar radiance insurance? – great scam. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>If
the eruption of El Chichon (sp) in Mexico could offset the winter wheat harvest
in the USSR for three years by lowering the ambient air temperature 3°. The USA
sold them wheat for the next 3-4 years to offset their grain requirements.
Perhaps we should include the effects of nature on the economy in our public
education system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Great
read on this type of cyclic planetary interference – “Climate and the Affairs
of Men” By Iben Browning Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>How
could you warranty against that kind of interference on your system output?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Thanks,
Dana Orzel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Great
Solar Works, Inc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>E -
dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>V -
970.626.5253<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>F -
970.626.4140<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>C -
970.209.4076<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>web
- www.solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Responsible
Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marco
Mangelsdorf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Volcanos, reduced solar production and kWh
performance warranties<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>This
thread brings up a very timely issue that I’m dealing with right now with PV
Power Purchase Providers. As an integrator providing turnkey PV systems
of X kW, I’m being asked to contractually agree to a minimum performance
warranty for said PV systems. I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable to any such
clause in any contract that I would sign. I have strong confidence in my
PV design capabilities and engineering support and in my professional
crew to install a top-quality PV system. I have a lot less confidence in
an inverter manufacturer being able to get to a site on a Hawaiian island in
the middle of the Pacific in a super timely fashion as the lost PV kWhs rack
up. And as I mentioned in a previous post today, we have an active
volcano here that’s been spewing since 1983, a volcano that could get a lot
worse on any given day. I’m leaning strongly against agreeing to any such
clause. Way too bad a precedent to set. Way too much of a
liability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anyone
else had to deal with this bugger of a performance warranty demand?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>marco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ProVision Solar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Marco:</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Our production <em><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>schedule</span></em> has been in
tatters - lowered by perhaps 30% because of the rain.... can't plan, can't
do. Then I pay overtime on good days to (try to) catch up.</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We have a number of systems
online and I had not thought to actually review and compare from this year to
last. I'll let ya know.</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We'll get a call like - "My
bill is higher than last year (edison has a bar graph of monthly
consumption for the past 13 months) and I'd like you to look at my system"
or My meter is not going backwards, should I call edison?" The
weather is so consistently wet this winter (think Hilo) that we
usually just need to ask-</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>"Been outside lately?"</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>But everywhere is so green and
the desert bloom is outrageous.........</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html">http://www.desertusa.com/wildflo/ca.html</a></span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Pat Redgate </span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ameco Solar </span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In a message dated 4/25/2010
12:24:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marco@pvthawaii.com writes:</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pat,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kicked your butts as far as lower output? If so, by how
much on a percentage basis?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On the Big Island of Hawaii, we’ve had a very active volcano
doing its thing since 1983. With the normal trade winds, the vog
(volcanic smoke + fog) gets blown south past the volcano, around the south tip
of the island and <b><i>then back up</i></b> along the west side of the
island. Which means that Kona-side residents can be in a yucky vog zone
for days and sometimes longer. Think L.A. on a smoggy summer day.
And as far as percentage decrease in solar output, I really have little
accurate clue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Marco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ProVision Solar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Kicked out butts, in fact.</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Pat Redgate</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Ameco Solar</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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