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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Here is another widget that
might be worth looking at.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It seems to be priced around the
TED option, but may have more bling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>-Glenn Burt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip
Boutelle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>eGauge is not revenue grade, but could
cover your requirements (1), (2), and (2). The proprietor David Mosberger-Tang
(</span><a href="mailto:davidm@egauge.net">davidm@egauge.net</a>) is pretty
savvy with programming too, and he might be amenable to adding a programmable
alarm, since it is just software. Depending on how many loads you need to
monitor (how many CTs you need), parts would be in the $1,000 range.<br>
<br>
Fat Spaniel could do all of it, but it can be difficult to get the attention
you need if the project has custom programming aspects. And you are stuck
paying a monthly fee for the life of the system.<span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phil Boutelle</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Project Engineer<br>
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer <sup>TM</sup><br>
Real Goods Solar, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>831.477.0943 office<br>
831.359.5268 mobile </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>831.477.0944 fax<br>
<a href="http://www.iesolar.com/" target="_blank">www.RealGoodsSolar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>On
Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Peter Parrish <<a
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I
am joining this thread a little late, so I may have missed a bifurcation<br>
into a related area.<br>
<br>
We have need for a DAS system that does the following:<br>
<br>
(1) Monitors inverter output, including some bigger commercial sized<br>
inverters from Satcon and SMA (100 kW to 500 kW)<br>
(2) Monitors utility input at service panel<br>
(2) Monitors several loads (up to five) via the service panel<br>
(3) Irradiance and temperature would be great but not absolutely necessary<br>
(4) Some sort of alarm system that would trigger at a programmable kW<br>
threshold for the utility input.<br>
<br>
What we are trying to do is monitor not only the PV system but the utility<br>
demand and key loads as well, and to come up with a strategy for shedding<br>
load to keep the demand below a certain amount.<br>
<br>
I know this is a fairly tough spec, and we may have to do some customization<br>
and/or programming to get what we want.<br>
<br>
- Peter<br>
<br>
<br>
Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>
California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a><br>
Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>[mailto:<a
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Jeff Irish<br>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:37 PM<br>
To: RE-wrenches<br>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems<br>
<br>
The Locus system is less than $1,000 for single phase.<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
<a href="mailto:wlbryce@pineridgeproducts.com">wlbryce@pineridgeproducts.com</a><br>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:50 PM<br>
To: RE-wrenches<br>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems<br>
<br>
<br>
I think the big this here is Low cost? Maybe we should define the price<br>
range so we can get a better fell of the product range?<br>
<br>
<br>
Logan<br>
<br>
<br>
> Chris,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Locus Energy has a low cost, revenue grade system that will work with<br>
> all inverters. We have several dozen deployed and they're working<br>
well.<br>
> Customer needs to have a high speed internet connection.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.locusenergy.com" target="_blank">www.locusenergy.com</a>
<<a href="http://www.locusenergy.com/" target="_blank">http://www.locusenergy.com/</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I've tried the TED and found it to be more of a toy than a serious<br>
> contractor product, although it may meet some user's needs. The
Locus<br>
> system is more accurate and robust, with much greater data storage.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Jeff Irish<br>
><br>
> Hudson Valley Clean Energy<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
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On Behalf Of Marco<br>
> Mangelsdorf<br>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:12 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a>;
'RE-wrenches'<br>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] low cost DAS systems<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Chris,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I've had one of my guys research this same question a while ago and<br>
the<br>
> conclusion was the as far as low-cost DAS systems, Fat Spaniel was the<br>
> big winner, as in under $1,000 which includes a year's worth of<br>
> monitoring.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> marco<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Good Day Wrenches,<br>
><br>
> I'm looking for suggestions for
a low cost DAS system for<br>
> home/small commercial use. It just seems to be such a useful basic<br>
tool<br>
> to verify performance other than just the Kwh meter. I'd like to add<br>
> this to all of our clients quotes and projects. Looking for the basics<br>
> like module temperature and irradiance and it would be nice if it<br>
would<br>
> tie into the existing inverters DAS like an Enphase, Fronius or SMA to<br>
> name a few since they already have inverter and PV in/output<br>
> information. Or is Fat Spaniel and Helitronics my only options<br>
> otherwise? Thanks for the help ahead of time.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Christopher<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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