<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I have a project were I may need to do a line-side tap, but was wondering if we can provide a load analysis as an exception, to show that the house will never use more than the buss-bars are rated for.<br><div> </div>Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box 657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Brooks <billbrooks7@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, March 28, 2010 10:04:22 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection<br></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dave,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">All line side connections must
have overcurrent protection (230.91) at the disconnecting means. Article 230.70
through 230.95 is what generally governs these connections. Without rewriting
John Wiles’ articles on this subject, here are a few quick pointers.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The basic rule to remember,
since you don’t have your code book, is to install a disconnecting means
with overcurrent protection adjacent to the existing service. No specific
distance is given, but the implication, and the field experience is as close as
physically possible to the existing service disconnecting means. Circuit breakers
or fused disconnects are allowed if they are listed as service equipment. Fused
disconnects are used more often than circuit breakers since many utilities
require a visible-break switch.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">To give Xantrex the benefit of
the doubt, their manual probably was not intended to address line side
connections. If it is intended to cover these, there statement may be accepted
by some jurisdictions, but it quite unlikely that a jurisdiction would ever
allow it. To have line side conductors, with no disconnecting means, installed
into a PV inverter wiring center just doesn’t make sense. Always install
a service disconnect with overcurrent protection on every connection to service
conductors—that seems like a logical and simple rule that can never go
wrong.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bill.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "sans-serif";">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Palumbo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Wrench List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">Wrenches,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">I am tasked with reviewing an
installation by a licensed electrician in Vermont and would like help with the
following:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">Grid-tied PV system with battery
back-up. AC point of connection is a supply side tap (done on customer side of
utility meter ) then traveling 5 feet of #2 THHWN in 1” EMT to the 60 Amp
240vac Lockable Utility Disconnect (unfused) and continuing 15 feet #2 THHWN
1” EMT to Xantrex XW 60 Amp breaker. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">I had said that the 60amp 240vac
lockable disconnect needed to be fused, and received the following reply from
the installing electrician.<i></i></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><i><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";"><< “The Xantrex XW Power
Distribution Panel contains the required over current protection (60 amp</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><i><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">double pole circuit breaker) negating
the need for a redundant fuse at the Utility Disconnect switch.” >></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><i><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";"> </span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "serif";">I am on a short trip in Florida and away
from my code books. Can someone provide guidance and code reference please? I
am concerned about the 20 foot distance of the un-protected circuit from the
supply side tap and also the interrupt rating of the 60 Amp breaker in the
Xantrex distribution panel.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">David Palumbo</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Independent Power LLC</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Offices in Lamoille and the Champlain Valley</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">802.888.7194 </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.independentpowerllc.com">www.independentpowerllc.com</a> </p>
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