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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No Transformers, Single inverter.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another question, looking at the Fronius 10.1 and
11.4-3, no battery backup of course, they both list 208v in the sizing
tool. I need to look at a manual, but I'm not sure if I would need
Delta, Wye, ..........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks everyone!</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bekahhren@yahoo.com href="mailto:bekahhren@yahoo.com">Rebekah
Hren</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=Allan@positiveenergysolar.com
href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</A>
; <A title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 15, 2010 5:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] 3 Phase Grid
Tie with Battery Backup</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV>Does the utility mean by "match" that they don't want the inverter output
transformed in any way? </DIV>
<DIV>Could you not just use one 120V inverter? I've connected single 120 volt
inverters (albeit not outback but I don't see why not) to a 120/208 wye
without problems. You have to make sure the wires are sized correctly (solar
pro had a recent article on unbalanced 3 phase wire sizing). This of course
limits your backed up loads to 120V (w/out a transformer).</DIV>
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<DIV>Rebekah Hren</DIV>
<DIV>North Carolina</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Allan Sindelar
<allan@positiveenergysolar.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, February 15, 2010 6:51:12
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [RE-wrenches]
3 Phase Grid Tie with Battery Backup<BR></FONT><BR>Yes you would. I don't
believe there is a single inverter that meets the utility's wishes. <BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=il><B>Allan</B></SPAN><B> Sindelar</B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><A href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><SPAN
class=il>Allan</SPAN>@positiveenergysolar.com</A><BR>NABCEP Certified
Photovoltaic Installer<BR>EE98J Journeyman Electrician<BR><B>Positive Energy,
Inc.</B><BR>3201 Calle Marie<BR>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<BR><B>505
424-1112</B><BR><A href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>www.positiveenergysolar.com</A></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>All
Solar Inc. Jeremy Rodriguez wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Thanks Darryl, <BR>Allen, would you have to use 3
Sunny Islands? one for each phase? <BR>The Utility wants a single
inverter. <BR><BR>Jeremy <BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl
Thayer" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com"><daryl_solar@yahoo.com></A>
<BR>To: "RE-wrenches" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></A>
<BR>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:49 PM <BR>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 3
Phase Grid Tie with Battery Backup <BR><BR><BR>I do not know what is going
on at Outback, but unless they reduced the product offering, they have the
capability. I have such a system. <BR><BR>Use 3 of their 120 volt
single phase inverters connected 3-phase WYE (120/208) 3 phase. Each
inverter is only a single phase, and you connect each inverter to the
neutral and one phase, you program one to be the Master, and the others to
be slaves on phase B and Phase C. When you lose the grid, the Master
inverter starts its sine wave and it generates the usual 60 Hz square wave
on the Outback Bus and the following slave units delays the start of their
sin waves by the appropriate 120 degrees to generate 3 phases. Each
inverter picks up and makes 60 hz 3 phase. <BR><BR>One thing, besure to get
a rotation meter and check that you are generating 3-phase the same rotation
as the grid. Else you will have big problems. (motors will reverse and you
may fry the OB transfer relay) <BR><BR>Next time you call outback ask a tech
if you can slave the GVFX to make 3 phase, <BR><BR>--- On Mon, 2/15/10, All
Solar Inc. Jeremy Rodriguez <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:allsolar@scswifi.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:allsolar@scswifi.net"><allsolar@scswifi.net></A>
wrote: <BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: All Solar Inc. Jeremy Rodriguez <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:allsolar@scswifi.net"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:allsolar@scswifi.net"><allsolar@scswifi.net></A>
<BR>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 3 Phase Grid Tie with Battery Backup
<BR>To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:starpower4u@juno.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:starpower4u@juno.com">starpower4u@juno.com</A>,
"RE-wrenches" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></A>
<BR>Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 4:14 PM <BR>Jeff, <BR>That was my
first choice, but I was told by Outback <BR>that they do not offer <BR>a
120/208 inverter(s). I have not set up a three <BR>phase system yet, so
bare <BR>with me please. I was going to contact SMA next. <BR><BR>Jeremy
<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Oldham" <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:starpower4u@juno.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:starpower4u@juno.com"><starpower4u@juno.com></A>
<BR>To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><Allan@positiveenergysolar.com></A>;
<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></A>
<BR>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:03 PM <BR>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches]
3 Phase Grid Tie with Battery <BR>Backup <BR><BR><BR>> You can also do
it w/Outback up to 10.8kW <BR>> <BR>>>From the Solar, Wind and
Hydro powered office of <BR>Jeff Oldham/Regenerative <BR>>>SOLutions
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