<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>I'm confoosed.. . I got a call from an old client complaining that their trace meter was wacky... seems it always read like 80% or something -- never reset?.. (48V -- 4 strings of UL16 -- 5 years old -- Off Grid). I asked about the last time they equalized, and they proudly reported that they hadn't had to eq. in over a year and a half because "an industry renowned battery guru" they met at a home show advised them that they no longer needed to equalize because their new Desulphators (that he sold them), made equalizing unnecessary.. (One for every two batteries all neatly wire tied to the cables.. blinking LEDs and everything) .. .. and that their specific gravity levels were right on the money (as checked with their new refractometer Mr Battery guy also sold them).. I asked them to check Batt. hi on the trace meter, and it read like 57V .. I suggested they equalize with the Gen Set..to 61Volts.. which did make the trace meter reset.. but they never got the bank over 59 Volts.. in over 12 hrs... and the batteries were starting to get hot... so I suggested they shut down, and I planned a trip down.... Got on site, pulled the strings apart, and checked for dead cells.. everything checked out ok... didn't have a hydrometer with me (seems they threw theirs out .. on the advice of Mr. Battery guru).. so I took their word on the refractometer readings... reconnected everything and fired up the gen set... had 80 amp in (measured with a Fluke 337), 13 something on one string, 29 on one, 24 on another and like 14 on the last. (the two lowest were on the outside.. coolest? -- the bank was still kinda warm) ... I suggested they let the bank cool completely, and try again in a few days... (Maybe even eq each string individually as a last resort). In checking thru the set points, I noticed many were wonky.. so I called tech support folks for the latest.... they told me that the factory defaults for gen start / stop often resulted in "Deficit Cycling".. and that proper settings were actually like 4 Volts higher (For both the 15 min. and the 2 hr start cycles).. they also told me small desulphators were a waste of money, and that refractometers were unreliable at best... now my customer is looking at me for answers... (I'm sending them a good hydrometer).. I'm hoping you folks might set me straight (er).. thanks db <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan Brown<br>President<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br>www.Foxfire-Energy.com<br>NABCEP #092907-44<br><br></div><blockquote id="replyBlockquote" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;" mce_style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ecoSolargy PV modules<br> From: Keith Cronin <electrichi01@yahoo.com><br> Date: Fri, February 12, 2010 4:25 pm<br> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br> <br> <mce:style></mce:style><style mce_bogus="1">
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</style><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" mce_style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Bob</div><div><br></div><div>They have contacted me and seem eager to distribute their products.</div><div><br></div><div>Keith</div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" mce_style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;" mce_style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;" mce_style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bob Clark <bclark@solar-wind.us><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;" mce_style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;" mce_style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 11, 2010 5:02:17 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;" mce_style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] ecoSolargy PV modules<br></font><br> <mce:style></mce:style><style mce_bogus="1">
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</style> <div class="Section1"> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";" mce_style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">RE-Wrenches:</span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";" mce_style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";" mce_style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><span>Does anyone have experience with ecoSolargy PV modules: <a href="http://www.ecosolargy.com/" mce_href="http://www.ecosolargy.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ecosolargy.com/#</a> ?</span></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";" mce_style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span></div> <div><b><span style="font-family: Papyrus; color: rgb(227, 108, 10);" mce_style="font-family: Papyrus; color: #e36c0a;">Bob Clark</span></b></div> <div><b><i><span style="font-family: Papyrus; color: rgb(227, 108, 10);" mce_style="font-family: Papyrus; color: #e36c0a;">SolarWind Energy Systems, LLC</span></i></b></div> <div><b><span style="font-family: Papyrus; color: rgb(227, 108, 10);" mce_style="font-family: Papyrus; color: #e36c0a;">P.O. Box 1234</span></b></div> <div><b><span style="font-family: Papyrus; color: rgb(227, 108, 10);" mce_style="font-family: Papyrus; color: #e36c0a;">Okanogan, WA 98840</span></b></div> <div><b><span style="font-family: Papyrus; color: rgb(227, 108, 10);" mce_style="font-family: Papyrus; color: #e36c0a;">(509) 826-1259<i></i></span></b></div> <div><br></div> </div> </div></div> </div><hr>_______________________________________________<br> List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br> <br> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br> <br> Options & settings:<br> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" mce_href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" mce_href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> List rules & etiquette:<br> <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" mce_href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br> <br> Check out participant bios:<br> <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" mce_href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br> <br> </div> </blockquote></span></body></html>