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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Watermiser" caps work the same way as the
Hydrocaps and the caps do not need to be removed for equalization,</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2> per the manufacturer's directions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hansen&Sun Elect.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=frenergy@psln.com href="mailto:frenergy@psln.com">frenergy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> ; <A
title=Allan@positiveenergysolar.com
href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 2009 9:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
Automatic Watering</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Maybe one way to express it would
be hydrocaps are great if you use the the same charging parameters no matter
what the age, condition of the battery is. This seems to be critical to
sizing the HCs properly. And you (or the "always attentive and
willing" customer) don't (doesn't) mind removing (and replacing) the
hydrocaps for every equalization for the rest of eternity. I wonder if
part of this debate doesn't center on the frequency of
equalizations. Many battery brands, systems require more
frequent eqs than others. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Maybe you can tell I've gone back
to regular caps after using HCs </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2>Feather River Solar
Electric</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=solar1online@charter.net
href="mailto:solar1online@charter.net">Bill Loesch</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=Allan@positiveenergysolar.com
href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</A>
; <A title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 2009 4:17
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
Automatic Watering</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another person's opinion...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With all due respect, Allan, if you understand
how the Hydrocap works (properly sized, removal when equalizing, as detailed
in the instructions) and use distilled (or equivalent) water to top off
the electrolyte much more infrequently than regularly, Hydrocaps provide a
close second to a recombinant battery at a fraction of the cost of the
real thing. Moreover, they are reusable (unless you blow them
up).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know of nothing, nothing that competes with
the Hydrocap. The yellow flip caps provide a marginal convenience
in terms of filling, however there is no comparison in performance.
Have any Homepower articles ever reviewed either of these things
back in the Dark Ages?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The use of a suitable battery enclosure to
contain the potential results of _any_ battery mishap should be
defacto procedure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will send George a copy of this thread
and will post his reply, if he chooses to comment. I believe it was
Windy who commented the biggest hassle of the Hydrocaps was dealing
with George and evidently Joel can echo that experience.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Loesch<BR>Solar 1 - Saint Louis
Solar<BR>314 631 1094</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>MO Licensed Professional Engineer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Saint Louis County (MO) Licensed Water
Heater Specialist</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=allan@positiveenergysolar.com
href="mailto:allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan Sindelar</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
Automatic Watering</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>One person's opinion, here...<BR>Avoid Hydrocaps. You need
to remove them to equalize. They can clog up and plug the battery up,
leading to an explosion from pressure. I have seen it.<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=il><B>Allan</B></SPAN><B> Sindelar</B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><A href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"
target=_blank><SPAN
class=il>Allan</SPAN>@positiveenergysolar.com</A><BR>NABCEP Certified
Photovoltaic Installer<BR>EE98J Journeyman Electrician<BR><B>Positive
Energy, Inc.</B><BR>3201 Calle Marie<BR>Santa Fe, New Mexico
87507<BR><B>505 424-1112</B><BR><A
href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/"
target=_blank>www.positiveenergysolar.com</A></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV><BR><BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:Windsun@wind-sun.com">Windsun@wind-sun.com</A> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri size=2>Hydrocaps - they run around $30 each last
I checked. We used to sell them but gave up when lead times went from
weeks to months.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>..................................................................................................<BR>Northern
Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979<BR>Solar
Discussion Forum: <A href="http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/</A><BR>..................................................................................................</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=atruitt@gmail.com href="mailto:atruitt@gmail.com"
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Has anyone ever used the recombination caps that
combine the released hydrogen with oxygen and return the pure water to
the cells? I am considering them for a large ([98] 2200Ah
Surrettes) battery system that we installed a while ago, but I think
they run about $200 a piece. <BR><BR><BR>Andrew
Truitt<BR>Standard Solar Inc.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Joel Davidson
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Than
you Roy, Jay, Jeff, and ...<BR><BR>I'm glad I checked my email
before going to Pep Boys to buy an automotive battery filler. Great
idea! I've been buying and selling batteries for over 35 years and
this is the first time I've heard about using a garden sprayer to
fill batteries. The RE-Wrenches knowledge base scores
again!<BR><BR>Happy Holidays.<BR>Joel
Davidson<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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