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One person's opinion, here...<br>
Avoid Hydrocaps. You need to remove them to equalize. They can clog up
and plug the battery up, leading to an explosion from pressure. I have
seen it.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span class="il"><b style="">Allan</b></span><b
style=""> Sindelar</b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
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class="il">Allan</span>@positiveenergysolar.com</a><br>
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<b style="">Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Windsun@wind-sun.com">Windsun@wind-sun.com</a> wrote:
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<div><font face="Calibri" size="2">Hydrocaps - they run around $30
each last I checked. We used to sell them but gave up when lead times
went from weeks to months.</font></div>
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href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a> </div>
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Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:07 PM</div>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering</div>
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Has anyone ever used the recombination caps that combine the released
hydrogen with oxygen and return the pure water to the cells? I am
considering them for a large ([98] 2200Ah Surrettes) battery system
that we installed a while ago, but I think they run about $200 a
piece. <br>
<br>
<br>
Andrew Truitt<br>
Standard Solar Inc.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Joel
Davidson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net">joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote">Than you Roy, Jay, Jeff, and ...<br>
<br>
I'm glad I checked my email before going to Pep Boys to buy an
automotive battery filler. Great idea! I've been buying and selling
batteries for over 35 years and this is the first time I've heard about
using a garden sprayer to fill batteries. The RE-Wrenches knowledge
base scores again!<br>
<br>
Happy Holidays.<br>
Joel Davidson<br>
<br>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Butler" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:roy@four-winds-energy.com"
target="_blank">roy@four-winds-energy.com</a>>
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering<br>
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<div class="h5">Joel,<br>
<br>
I was waiting to see if others use my method but I didn't see anyone<br>
post it.<br>
I've been off grid and having to maintain my batteries since 1997. I
grew to<br>
hate the battery watering jugs for several reasons and finally came up
with<br>
something that works for me.....your results may vary!<br>
<br>
I now use a pump up type garden sprayer. I use a 1.5 gallon version
with a<br>
plastic wand, spray tip removed. I pump it up 6-8 times and that
pressure<br>
allows me to fill 3 to 4 cells, depending on the volume of water needed.<br>
<br>
What I like about this is that the wand reaches anywhere in the bank and<br>
most important, I can watch the cells fill. I put a piece of electrical<br>
tape around<br>
the wand and insert the wand into the cell to the tape level. This is my<br>
water<br>
level and it's really easy to tell when the electrolyte reaches the end<br>
of the wand.<br>
<br>
About 1/2 of my customers are off grid and most use the sprayer method
with<br>
good results.<br>
<br>
BTW, this was a brand new sprayer, dedicated to distilled water and
hidden<br>
away from my wife, who loves to grab what ever is available in my shop.<br>
And at<br>
least here in snow country, the sprayers are all on sale!<br>
<br>
Roy Butler<br>
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer®<br>
NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer<br>
PA Sunshine Program Approved PV Installer<br>
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC<br>
8902 Route 46<br>
Arkport, NY 14807<br>
607-324-9747<br>
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target="_blank">www.four-winds-energy.com</a><br>
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Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message,<br>
a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Joel Davidson wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote">Wrenches,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your feedback that automatic watering is not automatic or
reliable. Valves can stick open (a flood) or shut (a dry cell) or not
seat properly (dripping that becomes a slow flood). I'll get a 2.5
quart watering can sold at auto parts stores - unless you all have a
better idea.<br>
<br>
Thanks again,<br>
Joel Davidson<br>
<br>
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To: "RE-wrenches" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:14 PM<br>
Subject: Battery Automatic Watering<br>
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class="gmail_quote">Wrenches,<br>
<br>
We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct Power
& Water battery boxes). We do not want to use Hydrocaps. Your
suggestions for an automatic watering system would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
Happy Holidays.<br>
Joel Davidson<br>
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