<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">We found once we removed the BFS watering caps, that the 5 gal jug, and tubing made an excellent manual filling system.<div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>R. Walters</div><div><a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a></div><div>Solar Engineer</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span>
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<br><div><div>On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:44 PM, frenergy wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"> For all of the rest of us Bozos that still manually water cells, try using a set-up used by those who have made their own beer. It's called a bottle filler in beer making, this is connected to a "racking cane" via 4-6 feet of 3/8" clear tubing. I hang a one gallon jug of distilled water 2-3 feet above the bank, insert the racking cane (which is just a section of rigid tubing with a bend in it) into jug, bottle filler is on the other cell-filling end of the tubing.</font></div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"> Once you've started the siphon simply insert the bottle filler into each cell far enough to start water to flow from jug to cell. You can easily watch progress of filling, when full, lift up on bottle filler, distilled water stops flowing...done. On to next cell. This method takes me about 10-12 seconds to accurately fill each of my 1200 Ahr HUP cells in one attempt as filling visibility is good.</font></div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"> Yes, you'll need to change the jug a few times...usually 3 times for my pack (1200 Ahrs @ 24V). The shut off on the bottle filler is pretty positive.</font></div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2">Bill</font></div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2">Feather River Solar Electric</font></div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Bookman Old Style" size="2"></font> </div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net">Joel Davidson</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:07 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>**Possible_Spam** Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering</div><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">On-grid. The IBE lead-antimony cells already installed.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2">So far Wrench feedback is automatic watering systems are unreliable. The watering system that IBE sells to its forklift customers requires the user to manually turn it on and off because the feeder cap float valve does not seal tightly and the drips add up resulting in overfilled cells and a mess.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Joel Davidson</font></div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="toddcory@finestplanet.com" href="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com">toddcory@finestplanet.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:03 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering</div><div><br></div><font face="arial" size="4">On grid or off grid Joel? If grid tied /w battery backup, use lead calcium wet cells. They only need watering about every 18 months.<br><br>Todd<br><br><br>On Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:14pm, "Joel Davidson" <<a href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net">joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net</a>> said:<br><br>> Wrenches,<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct Power &<br>> Water battery boxes). We do not want to use Hydrocaps. Your suggestions for<br>> an automatic watering system would be most appreciated. 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