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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello Howie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I met John Kimball in 1982 when
he worked at Kyocera's solar module assembling plant in Phoenix.
John's email to your friend is very straightforward. John has always been
honest with me and is committed to making PV affordable to everyone.
That said, you get what you pay for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I met with Kaneka engineers in March 2003 to
discuss their a-Si module. They had the a-Si production process down pat
then and have made quality improvement since then. Your friend is probably
familiar with the criticism about First Solar modules when they were first
introduced in Germany. With a gigawatt in the field, First Solar has proven
itself. Now low-priced CdTe is getting competition from
a-Si.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If power density is not an issue, then the primary
factors in selecting a PV module are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1. is the manufacturer a quality company
with significant PV experience</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>2. do the modules have IEC certification
and/or UL listing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>3. do the modules meet the project
requirements</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>4. does the distributor provide after-sales
customer support.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Joel Davidson</FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=howie@suncatchervt.com href="mailto:howie@suncatchervt.com">Howie
Michaelson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:02
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Solar Panels
for 98 Cents Per Watt</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all,<BR><BR>The message below was received by a friend of
mine who has done all his<BR>own installation work, including being an early
adopter of the FIT program<BR>while living in Germany many years ago. He
is wondering if this is a good<BR>deal for his off-grid system.<BR><BR>What
thoughts are there about the points made in this pitch? This is
the<BR>type of marketing that more and more of my clients are
seeing.<BR><BR>Has anyone had any traffic with Sun Electronics that they care
to relate?<BR><BR>And, I thought at least the Evergreen blemishes were about
minorly<BR>misaligned cells, not spots.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Howie<BR>--
<BR>Howie Michaelson<BR>NABCEP Certified Solar PV InstallerT<BR><BR>Sun
Catcher, LLC<BR>Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service<BR>VT Solar &
Wind Incentive Program Partner<BR>http://www.SunCatcherVT.com<BR>(cell)
802-272-0004<BR>(home) 802-439-6096<BR><BR><BR>Begin forwarded
message:<BR><BR>> From: Sun Electronics
<johnkimball@sunelec.com><BR>> Date: December 7, 2009 5:29:34 PM
AST<BR>><BR>> Before I tell you about these new panels, I would
like to say something<BR>about our B grade and SUN modules. No one else
sells the brand SUN. We<BR>have them made for us in the U.S., Germany and
China using different<BR>cells, depending on the size they might be
Evergreen's, Sun Power's,<BR>etc.B modules have UL and SUN modules do not.
They both have a 25 year<BR>warranty. SUN modules can be used for off grid
independent homes, or any<BR>low voltage application of 12, 24, or 48
volts,(boats, RV's, telecom,<BR>etc.). Both our A and B panels have UL and can
be used for any grid<BR>connected application or any other type of
systems.<BR>><BR>> B and SUN Panels: If you have ever actually seen one
of our cosmetically<BR>imperfect crystalline modules like the Evergreen
ES-A-205-fa3B for<BR>$2.24/W or our SUN ES-A-205-fa3 for $1.74/W sitting next
to an Evergreen<BR>A panel, you will know that you can't tell the difference.
You will<BR>probably need someone to show you some tiny spots, if there are
any. The<BR>power output is identical. Every panel comes with a flash test
sheet<BR>from the manufacturer's certified solar simulator showing all
panels<BR>power output's equal or exceed the factories output tolerances
-0% to +<BR>5%. Over the last 10 years we have sold
hundreds of containers of<BR>them and have never had more than 10 panels come
back over the last 10<BR>years, and even those are kept for testing and
repair. All A, B and SUN<BR>modules have a 25 year warranty.<BR>><BR>>
The reason for the excellent quality of B and SUN panels is because<BR>solar
panels are all basically made the exact same way. Like sliding<BR>glass doors
that, last like Stanley hammers, they are very very simple<BR>and strong. They
are built to last 30 to 40 years, some say longer. If<BR>you could compare all
the different manufacturer's crystalline solar<BR>panels in the world by
lining them up and having a 100 yard dash, they<BR>would all end up
finishing within a few inches of each other, but the<BR>sales guys would be
there promoting that theirs was 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.<BR>However, the difference
in efficiency of solar modules is only about 3%<BR>between the best and worst
and its been that way since I started in the<BR>PV business, 25 years
ago!<BR>><BR>> If your system is off grid and low voltage (12, 24 or 48
volts) it's<BR>even safe for you to use modules without certification. Modules
are<BR>tested to a minimum of 150 volts most 600 volts. We have sold
them<BR>without UL, into the Caribbean, Latin America as well as North
America<BR>and we have thousands of customers who will gladly tell you how
happy<BR>they are to have purchased them and how well they have worked for
years.<BR>><BR>> Cost effective solar is happening now, if you know what
to buy, when to<BR>buy it, how to use it, where to get it and who you can
believe. I<BR>started with the Energy Center in Tucson, Arizona in 1973, 36
years ago,<BR>during the Arab Oil Embargo. I have worked for three U.S.
Congressmen,<BR>Udall, Sharp and Brown (Chairman of the House Science and
Technology<BR>Committee), Arizona Gov. Babbitt's Solar Energy Commission,
Photowatt's<BR>PV Factory and Kyocera Solar as U.S. and International
Sales Engineers<BR>and as the Owner of Sun Electronics International, Inc. for
20 years.<BR>><BR>> Sure we sell the best and more expensive panels,
Kyocera, Evergreen,<BR>Solar World, etc. and we take our reputation seriously
here at Sun<BR>Electronics. But we need to lower the cost of solar and not
just by<BR>using other people's money. All solar systems are good but
cost<BR>effective ones are better in our opinion. B and our SUN modules
help<BR>lower the cost of solar by up to 50%.<BR>> No one has prices like
Sun Electronics, it's not because we are<BR>unprofessional it's because we are
realistic. And because I have been<BR>shopping great deals for 20 years
and I have contacts in the industry<BR>from 36 years of experience. We
are known for it and manufacturers call<BR>us with special offers from all
over the world including the U.S.<BR>(Evergreen, BP, Solar World, Sanyo,
Schott, AEE etc.)as well as from<BR>Germany, Japan, China and
Spain.<BR>><BR>> Don't let anyone scare you. "Cosmetic blemishes"
are just that<BR>"cosmetic". And, some panels may have different or no
certifications at<BR>all because many manufacturer's have customers who don't
require it.<BR>Certification is also unbelievably expensive (approx. $50,000
per panel<BR>type) and takes forever to get. Most countries don't even have
grid<BR>connect type high voltage systems and thus don't require
any<BR>certification. Remember, however, on high voltage grid connect
systems<BR>you should always use modules with the proper certification such as
UL,<BR>TUV or CE. Our B "cosmetically blemished" modules always
have<BR>certification.<BR>><BR>> As of Monday Dec. 7th solar is
available, at least until we run out, for<BR>$.98/Watt, it's thin film, it's
made in Japan, it is less efficient, but<BR>at this price, especially with UL
and a 25 yr. factory warranty, I ask<BR>you, is there any reason why not? We
have 1,000 of them. These are the<BR>kind of deals I have spent years looking
for and find. And, there will<BR>be more, the world economy and over
production in the industry has<BR>assured that. Solar can stand on it's own
two feet, but for now it means<BR>starting off with the lowest price solar
panels, balance of system<BR>components, energy efficient appliances and
energy conservation.<BR>><BR>> Happy Holidays,<BR>><BR>> John
Kimball<BR>> Sun Electronics International., Inc.<BR>>
www.sunelec.com<BR>><BR>> Email Marketing by<BR>><BR>> Sun
Electronics | 511 NE 15th Street | Miami | FL | 33132<BR>><BR><BR>
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