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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">Hi Tump et al.</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">Must echo your comments. A series string is, without a doubt, the most efficient and things just get more complicated (connections, numbers of cells, voltage disparity) as you add parallel strings. Per Tom's comments, the only solution to multiple banks is bus bars </font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">Jamie</font><br><br><font face="Lucida Grande" STYLE="font-size: 12pt"><br>James Surrette<BR><BR>Surrette Battery Co. Ltd<BR>1 Station Rd.<BR>Springhill, NS, CAN<BR>B0M 1X0<BR><BR>Direct: 902.597.4027<BR>Fax: 902.597.8447<BR><BR><BR><br><br></font>>>> "Tump" <tump@hughes.net> 12/2/2009 8:32 AM >>><br> </p>
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<span class="875352312-02122009"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Surrette Battery, THE battery company suggests NO MORE the 3 parallel in a string & would like to see 2 preferably.</font></span> </p>
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<span class="875352312-02122009"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">If there are more the 3 then they really not interested in warrantee issues.</font></span> </p>
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<span class="875352312-02122009"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Jamie where are you??????</font></span> </p>
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<span class="875352312-02122009"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Now a days there are plenty of options for a good size/AH BB that can be configured in 1 or 2 parallel strings.</font></span> </p>
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<a href="mailto:Tump@swnl.net"><b>Tump@swnl.net</b></a><font face="Arial"> </font><span class="597035700-05092007"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.swnl.net/"><u>www.SWNL.net</u></a></font></b></span><br> <font color="#0000ff"><span class="597035700-05092007"> </span></font><span class="597035700-05092007"><font size="5" color="#0000ff">Solarwinds Northernlights</font></span> </p>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"><b>From:</b> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dana<br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:58 PM<br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"><b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Strings and series of batteries<br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"><br style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 2"></font> </p>
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<font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif">On a similar subject here –<o style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif" p="#DEFAULT"></o style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif"></span></font> </p>
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<font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif">Long ago, I had a Trojan battery rep. state that they did not like to see more than [12] L-16s in a series –parallel bank system. This was due to too many points of connection / resistance and bad communication due to multiple flow paths.<o style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif" p="#DEFAULT"></o style="font-family: Arial,sans-serif"></span></font> </p>
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If the 180 watt panel will provide enough current to run the recovery process, then give it a try. What I expect is that your current will vary throughout the day. Not sure if this is a critical point or if it will just prolong the process. Pay attention to the temperature. I use a laser temp probe on the terminals every 30 minutes to verify.<o p="#DEFAULT"></o> </p>
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Another thing to monitor is the current. It will probably start very low and build over time due to high resistance from sulfated plates. During this time the voltage might get really high and then lower some. Don't worry about the voltage. After a while the current will begin to drop. This means the recovery process is working. <o p="#DEFAULT"></o> </p>
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I just realized that this battery bank must be 4 in series and ten parallel strings. This is a horrible design that can never work right without extensive monthly maintenance. The strings with higher resistance will not be charged properly. Because of this, many strings will be undercharged every day. EVERY day! So even if you recover these batteries, someone will need to test and equalize at least every month. I really want to stress this point as multiple parallel batteries are the ruin and waste of many thousands of tons of batteries each year. I never design for more than two strings in parallel. Do this and be happy.<o p="#DEFAULT"></o> </p>
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