<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>If a customer later feels they want the Mate for any reason, we will always provide one on our next maintenance call. </div></span></div><div>We let the customer decide if they want to spend the extra $295.00, rather than deciding for them.</div><div>Most choose not to, especially with grid tie.</div><div>I don't even have one on my own GTB system, I just have the cable hooked in, and pull the Mate out of my tool box if I want to do something.</div><div>Maybe I'm missing some spectacular performance enhancement and just don't know, but I just haven't found a reason to hook mine up in 2 years.</div><div>The MX 60 screen tells me what the voltage is at, and array performance, the inverter lights tell me if I'm selling back, and the KWH meter logs total energy production.</div><div>Tell me what I'm missing? I'll happily start selling more Mates.</div><div><br></div><div>Ray</div>
<br><div><div>On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Drake Chamberlin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
I totally agree!<br><br>
Drake <br><br>
At 03:48 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">I always install a
mate.<br><br>
My logic is that I can try, might not succeed, to walk them over the
phone through the many adjustments that might need to be made.<br>
And also look at error messages etc which can save me a bunch of
time.<br><br>
So for those of you who don't include a mate, do you then charge the
customer to show up and do a adjustment?<br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
jay<br><br>
peltz power<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Ray,<br>
We usually include the Mate if we expect a backup generator to be the
periodic source of a higher C/rate than the PV array for equalizing
batteries. The Mate is necessary to initiate an EQ charge algorithm. How
do you accomplish periodic EQ with an Outback inverter and no Mate?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Allan Sindelar<br>
<a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">
Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a><br>
NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>
EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
<b>Positive Energy, Inc.<br>
</b>3201 Calle Marie<br>
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>
505 424-1112<br>
<a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/">
www.PositiveEnergySolar.com</a><br>
<br>
<b>From:</b>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
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mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>R Ray Walters<br><br>
As far as customer interaction with the MATE, we generally don't provide
one. They're way too expensive and hard to understand, and the chances of
them screwing up the programming are too great.<br>
We install just the cable, and coil it up so that when we come out, we
can access the programming without having to remove all the cover
plates.<br>
Only customers that are comfortable with changing settings, etc. actually
get a MATE. (1 out of 10) <br>
<br>
R. Walters<br>
<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a><br>
Solar Engineer<br>
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