<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Bruce,<div><br></div><div>Volt/time start is pretty accurate.</div><div>I'm wondering if you have a battery problem that is causing the issue.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm guessing that the volt/time is starting before the % shows it should start?</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div>peltz power<br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Mendocino Solar Service wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Kent,<div><br></div><div>We're trying to work the bugs out of our first FNDC for a demanding customer. It came as part of a DC Power assembled power center. They had added a circuit of their own design that had an Auto-Off-Manual toggle switch and a relay that was connected to both the FNDC <font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><i>and </i>the<i> </i>FX aux. It didn't work. Outback said to use either the FNDC relay or the FX aux with an external relay, which is what we did, and it's worked fine for several months, controlling the generator by SOC. However, lately the SOC reading seems to have gotten out of sync with reality, big surprise. The volt start settings are over-riding the SOC. The challenge is how to camp out at the customer's house for a week to make the observations and tweaks to get all the programming set up appropriately to the realities of the battery and array.</span></font></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"></span></font>I would suggest removing generator control from the FNDC relay and let the Mate/AGS control an external relay. The FNDC seems to feed it's data to Mate so it can work off of SOC.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with others that the FNDC screens are way too complicated for all but a tech-head customer. At least the Trimetric is simple enough you can get almost anyone to read amps and volts, and even, God forbid, days since charged.</div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div>Bruce Erickson</div><div>Mendocino Solar Service</div><div>PO Box 1252</div><div>Mendocino, CA 95460</div><div>707-937-1701</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Kent Osterberg wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Wrenches,<br> <br> I see there are lots of negative feelings about the FNDC and about how complicated the Mate is in general. I haven't seen many direct <br> responses to the question. Have any of you used the relay in the FNDC and had problems with it not turning the generator off?<br> <br> <br> <br> Kent Osterberg wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4AD622F1.5050104@coveoregon.com" type="cite">Has anyone besides me had problems using the relay in the Outback FNDC? I've had three different customers report that their generators failed to turn off.<br> <br> -- <br> Kent Osterberg<br> Blue Mountain Solar, Inc.<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.bluemountainsolar.com/">www.bluemountainsolar.com</a><br> <pre wrap=""><hr size="4" width="90%">
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