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<DIV><SPAN class=531102420-01102009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>the
issue is NOT the transfer switch but the window that the inverter is allowed
to latch on to the AC input & operate within the IEEE
regulations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531102420-01102009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have
yet to find a generator that will latch onto a grid tie inverter.
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<DIV><SPAN class=531102420-01102009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
Victron "SKYELLA" Charger will ALSO operate as a Hi current DC power source AND
can be wired in series to meet your battery sizing & charge
current requirments . 24/48 volt 1/3 Ph 185 - 265 vac 45 - 65
hz</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531102420-01102009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.victronenergy.com">www.victronenergy.com</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531102420-01102009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Contact me off list if you need additional info.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Orion
Thornton<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:49 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'RE-wrenches'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
Charger<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">There is an existing automatic
transfer switch—isolating the grid and feeding in the
generator.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>toddcory@finestplanet.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 28, 2009 6:29
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 13.5pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I am curious how
you connect a generator to the GVFX? It only has one AC input that us used for
the grid.<BR><BR>Todd<BR><BR>On Monday, September 28, 2009 11:43am, "Orion
Thornton" <othornton@solarips.com> said:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Wrenches, <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>We recently installed a grid-tie battery backup system
using two Outback GVFX 3648 inverters. The client has an existing
Generac backup generator, 8 kW @ 240VAC. From the beginning we told the
client that the power quality from the Generac may not be within tolerance to
integrate with the grid-tie inverters and charge batteries. This
assumption was confirmed today when we commissioned and tested the
system. The output frequency of the Generac was 58 hz.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>To get to the point does anyone have a battery charger they
recommend for this application?—8 kW @ 240VAC generator output to 48VDC
battery bank. Or maybe another suggestion to be able to integrate the
generator into the system, we are also planning on manually transferring the
generator output to power the critical loads if an inverter goes
down.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>It also seems that the dc genset controls through the mate
would be the best way to control the battery charger—any
thoughts?<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks in advance for any input.<o:p></o:p></P>
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