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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Travis,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I know that the original argument had to do with installers
wanting to install on their own facility. I don’t know why that would be
a conflict at all. That should always be encouraged. The issue was related to
opening the door to “self-installation” by homeowners, not
contractors. This is where the problem lies. Since no contractor is on record
for the warranty, there should be a lower rebate for that type of installation.
If the contractor is providing the warranty for their own system, I agree that
there is no incentive to let the system fail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Throwing out a lower rebate for “self-installers” just
encourages fraudulent contracting. Address the issue by allowing all contractor
installations at the full rebate amount, and all homeowner installs at the
reduced amount. It seems very simple to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Travis
Creswell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>It’s obvious you feel pretty strongly about this and you have
always made a lot of sense over the years. But I’m not seeing your
side completely. The business owner still has some costs and risks
associated with warranting their own system. If they are troubleshooting/removing/replacing
components they either aren’t getting paid themselves or they are paying
their own employees to do the work. What about the module manufacturer
that tanks within the warranty period leaving installer holding the bag on bad
modules? It doesn’t matter if they are on his (or her) roof
or not. I would agree that it’s easier this less expensive to
support the warranty on your own gear but it’s certainly not free.
Perhaps the reduced credit is fair but it’s not accurate to say the
installer has no costs associated with warranty of their own system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Travis Creswell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Ozark Energy Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Brooks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2009 10:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Roger, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why would a legitimate contractor argue against this reduced
incentive (it is not a penalty at all)? This is simply acknowledging the fact
that operating a business and providing a long-term system warranty costs money
that a self-installer does not have to carry. This actually came from a strong
recommendation I made to the California Energy Commission since early in the
rebate program over 30% of installations were “self-installed”
which was a bunch of BS. These were black market contractors who did not want
to carry a system warranty or did not have the credentials to install the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Once we installed the slightly lower rebate cleaned up most of
the black market contracting and the number of self-installed systems went to
the real number of less than 5%.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arguing against the lower rebate was a mistake that you are
going to regret. It’s helpful to learn from history before repeating it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>roger
dixon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2009 1:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:#0000CC'>Try
the DSIRE website, <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/">http://www.dsireusa.org/</a>.
It lists both state and federal incentives for renewable energy and energy
efficiency. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:#0000CC'>Up
until this year, NJ would penalize a “self install”, reducing the
rebate amount by 15%. We argued against that and they have now removed
that penalty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:#0000CC'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>Roger
Dixon<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:black'>Certified Wind Site Assessor<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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color:black'>Distributor & Installer of Solar & Wind Energy Systems <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>Skylands
Renewable Energy, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>908.337.2057
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>908.730.6474
fax<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:#0000CC'>roger.dixon@skylandsre.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#0000CC'>www.skylandsre.com<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake
Chamberlin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2009 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Installer's grant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Hello Wrenches,<br>
<br>
I wanted to see how other states are handling solar grants / rebates on the
homes of installers. In Ohio there is a grant program that gives $3.00 /
Watt toward residential systems. Eligible installers must be approved by
the state, and funds are allotted to the installer. <br>
<br>
In this years program, there is a "conflict of interest" clause which
says that installers, employees of installers and subcontractors of installers
are not eligible for any grant funding from the grant received by the
installer. It is likely that installers can hire their competition
to do installations.<br>
<br>
Do other states have this conflict of interest clause?<br>
<br>
Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:blue'>Drake Chamberlin<br>
Athens Electric<br>
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NABCEP </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>TM </span><span
style='color:blue'>Certified PV Installer <br>
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