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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A cautionary tale. We used those puppies
for a while until we had a call back from a customer with a ground fault / off
line condition. We found that the box had warped, the seal rendered ineffective
and the splices sitting in 0. 5” of water. After thinking about it, we decided
that the 140+ deg F summer roof temperatures probably caused the plastic to
warp under thermal stress. They probably would work just fine off the roof, but
I can’t personally vouch for them.</span></font></p>
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color=navy><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:navy'>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D.,
President<br>
California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>
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Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Max Balchowsky<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 24, 2009
12:48 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches]
raintite box mounting angle</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style"'>We've been using the
6x6x4 plastic boxes with a gasket (electrical section of most home depot
stores)- mount them on their side at the edge of the array. They are rated for
electrical wiring and are water proof and have been accepted and passed by
every electrical inspector we've had over the last few years. They are used
alot by landscape contractors for j-boxes in the ground.<br>
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Max Balchowsky<br>
SEE Systems<br>
760-403-6810</span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Bill Brooks
<billbrooks7@yahoo.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> kirk@vtsolar.com; RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 24, 2009
9:08:34 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches]
raintite box mounting angle<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I’m fairly confident
that if the manufacturer does not specify an angle for NEMA 3R (rainproof) that
the default is vertical. In special cases (e.g. Outback PSPV), the NEMA 3R
tests are requested at an angle, but this is fairly rare. Upshot is that NEMA
3R boxes normally cannot be mounted in the plane of the roof, while NEMA 4 and
up can be mounted in the roof plane since many of these boxes can be mounted
from vertical to horizontal.</span></font></p>
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kirk Herander, VSE<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 24, 2009 8:26
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] raintite
box mounting angle</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Can anyone give a recommendation for a minimum mounting
angle of a raintite box? Ideally 90 degrees, but in this case I may be forced
to mount it at the same angle as the panels – about 25 degrees, mounted off the
roof about 6 inches. I don’t think there is any reference in the NEC to this.
It will be off the roof about 6 inches in a mild climate, where they only get
about 20 inches of snow a year. Thanks.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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