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Hi Folks,<div><br></div><div>I had an XW on my off grid system for a number of months, at the insistence of my partner it has been taken out and our old SW Plus is back doing homestead power duty. The reason we took the XW out of service was because it had an unreasonably high tare loss and it didn't work well with our 3 kW Honda generators - it kept dropping it off charge. I really liked the user interface but only with the addition of the Remote Panel, the machine itself without the remote would be a pain to operate. It was no surprise to learn that they were made in China, but I tend to agree that small parts should be available for this sort of product.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Ezra</div><div><br></div><div>Ezra Auerbach</div><div>DragonSun Consulting<br><div><div>On 4-Aug-09, at 7:41 PM, jay peltz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Peter,<div><br></div><div>I agree with you on the XW. I'm amazed that there is no integrated battery capacity meter, plus plenty of other issues I find pretty amazing given they used to make the premier inverter and in many ways I have to say the old SW hasn't really be beaten. </div><div>Also I still find the old SW the best screen/display out there. I think the reason besides the logic is there are more buttons.</div><div><br></div><div>As to the outback relay. I've used a Solid State relay, and they work really well in my opinion on the AC side. Many of the large relays have too big a draw for the AUX relay to power, the SS relays work great.</div><div>And no the outback nor any other ( the SMA is different) cannot regulate in the AC coupling mode.</div><div><br></div><div>jay</div><div>peltz power<br><div><div>On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Peter Parrish wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">I would like to start a thread on AC-coupled grid tied battery backup systems. We do a fair number of GTBBSs (four to five a year) and I have gravitated from the Outback solution to the Xantrex XW solution. I am not happy with the XW product and especially not happy with Xantrex’s post sales technical support. I know I have more to learn about these puppies in general, so I am genuinely disappointed with the uneven TS from Xantrex.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> </span></font></p><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; ">I also had this nagging feeling that the heart of a GTBBS should be the tried and true high voltage inverter. Enter the SunPower positive ground requirement, and now an AC coupled system seems the best solution.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; ">From the white paper that Outback sent me, there was no mention of a heavy duty relay. Doesn’t the Outback inverter regulate the battery charge control?</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; ">Has anyone tried to order a SunWize “Solar Ready Battery Assembly” without the charge controller (e.g. P/N SRB3.6). It would seem that this is a nice package for small energy needs (13 to 26 kWh of battery backup). </span></font></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy; ">-Peter</span></font></p></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List sponsored by Home Power magazine</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Options & settings:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List rules & etiquette:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Check out participant bios:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">www.members.re-wrenches.org</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>