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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I have never seen a warped anodized aluminum frame.
I've seen frame stock in handling, but it was not used to build
modules. Does anyone have a photo of a warped module frame?</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=peter.parrish@calsolareng.com
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">Peter Parrish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] REC Solar
melt-down</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Let’s make sure we
are making a distinction between “differential coefficient of expansion” and
“(heat induced) warping”. All material (Al alloy and low-Fe glass among them)
undergo a change of dimension as a function of temperature. Pure aluminum and
many of its alloys have a differential coefficient of expansion of 2.30e-5 per
degree centigrade difference from 0 degrees centigrade. Low iron tempered
glass has a lower coefficient of 0.84e-5. As a result, both aluminum and glass
expand when heated but glass does so more slowly. Over a 45 degree centigrade
temperature increase (from 25 deg C) there will be a 0.65e-3 change, or less
than 1/10<SUP>th</SUP> of 1 per cent. Usually this does not create a problem
unless the aluminum and glass are pinned together in some fashion and the
length of the bond is long enough to produce unmanageable changes in
dimension. For example a 150 cm length (long dimension of a PV module) would
produce a relative dimension change of 0.1 cm (40 mils). This is manageable I
understand given the elastomeric sealant that PV module manufacturers’ use
when applying the frame to the glass/Si/Tedlar sandwich.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What I suspect is the
problem is warping, caused by heating of the aluminum frame. Work hardened
metals (including extruded metal) often have built in stresses due to the
forming process. This stress can be relieved by long term high temperatures,
resulting in the metal piece deforming. I have seen warping as much as 5% in
long extruded parts. If in fact what is happening is warping, then I suspect
that warping cannot be overcome with something like an elastomeric sealant.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I honestly don’t know
if manufacturers of extruded metal parts put their parts through an annealing
cycle to remove stresses or not.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Peter</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><IMG hspace=12 align=left
src="cid:2B69FF56751247D68381E07DFCB4AD32@JOEL" width=67 height=80><FONT
color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Peter T. Parrish,
Ph.D., President<BR>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<BR>820 Cynthia Ave.,
Los Angeles, CA 90065<BR>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<BR><A
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</A>
<BR>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax
323-258-8885
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Joel Davidson<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:06
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What frame material has that high
a coefficient of expansion?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nickvida@ymail.com href="mailto:nickvida@ymail.com">Nick Vida</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">wrenches</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:45 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
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[RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">wrenches,<BR><BR><BR>the defect in REC panels is the
frame expands past the panel and can contract and break the glass.
Unfortunate, but no big deal in a lot of ways. I dont know if there is
another defect, but that one would warrant a recall instead of replacing a
lot of panels. There was also an article about their Oregon plant breaking a
couple hours after it went online. Im glad to see they have done a recal. I
think it is proper and good business. I think thier silicon and wafers are
fine and well made, and we would hopefully find out if they werent because
they are a major supplier of wafers to several manufactures.
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