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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well Nick, the cat’s out the bag on
this one. And I would encourage you and Andrew to give this issue wide distribution.
As long as you both stick to the facts and keep your phasors on stun.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As integrators we need to know the technical
details of warranties. It would be exceedingly painful if our company had to
eat the cost of a 17 kW install!</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here is one more factoid that I would like
to throw into the mix. Vance Lindsay of BP Solar, a very solid individual with
lots of experience on the installation side, has brought to our attention the
fact that BP Solar module cannot be attached via their SHORT DIMENSION. This
was news to us, and Vance said that such an attachment scheme would void the BP
Solar Warranty.</span></font></p>
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick Lucchese<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 15, 2009 10:11
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Separated
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Greetings wrenches! We recently did a small commercial system (17 kW) using
BP-SX 3175 modules and the Unirac RapidRac ballasted mounting system. The flat
roof is ballasted with 2" of gravel that we smoothed as much as possible
but undulations are visible in the array, though the changes are never more
than 5 degrees from module to module. After about 3 months the cusotmer noticed
a problem developing with 1/3 of the modules: the interior of the module
(backsheet, cells and glazing) were separating from the aluminum frame!
Remnants of the black, rubbery adhesive are clearly visible on the inside of
the frame and on the edge of the backsheet/cell/glazing sandwich. It seems
clear to us and that the adhesive simply failed and should be covered under the
5 year workmanship warranty, but BP does not agree. BP is saying that the
modules are supposed to be mounted with a solid member spaning the width of the
module and since the RapidRac supports the module on what amounts to 4
individual stanchions, the workmanship warraty is null and void. The mounting
instructions, however, say nothing about requiring a solid member spaning the
module.<br>
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Has anyone else had this issue with BP or any other types of modules? Does
anyone buy that it could be the fault of the RapidRac? We unbolted a few of the
bad modules to see if the frame was exerting any torque but the neither the
module not the frame moved - we set the module back on the frame and the
mounting holes lined up perfectly as before.<br>
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Thoughts or suggestions? <br>
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Gotta' love these long sunny days!<br>
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Andrew Truitt<br>
Standard Solar Inc.<br>
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