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color=#0000ff size=2>It looks like the inspector is saying that he is refering
to NEC 2005 by way of CEC 2007 and mostly concerned about identifing wires of
differant systems by using different colors or other means.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>His first line seems to be abbreviated or confused. He may
be confusing the PV output circuit with the inverter output circuits or just
leaving that part out. Of couse the DC of the PV source and output
circuits can be in the same raceway with each other. But what if you want
to add the AC of the "inverter output "circuits in that same raceway?
This is allowed but you have identify the conductors of the different
systems. So you can't have black wire for the DC pos and then use
black wire for the AC lines. And remember no tapping wire smaller
#6.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>If you look at it in these terms does does it become more
clear what he is getting at?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark Frye</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
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<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>303 Redbud Way</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nevada City, CA
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nick
Vida<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>
nickvida@ymail.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Santa Monica guidlines/
CEC<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Wrenches,<BR><BR>This is an interesting email i received today from an
inspector in Santa Monica, CA. He reference the CEC, and I am not familiar. Is
this the Canadian Electrical Code(CEC)? <BR><BR>Also, <BR>Santa Monica, CA just
published their guidelines and there is a link in the email. They are pretty
close to the one Bil Brooks worked on for Schwarzenegger. <BR><BR>
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<BR>Here is the Email (my draft of my response follows):<BR><BR>Hi
Nick<BR><BR>It is my understanding that your permit will be extended by 6
months.<BR><BR>Here is the short cut for the SM PV standards.<BR><BR>Shortcut
to:<BR><A href="http://www.qcode.us/codes/santamonica/index.php?topic=8-8_40"
target=_blank>http://www.qcode.us/codes/<WBR>santamonica/index.php?topic=8-<WBR>8_40</A><BR><BR>Weather
and sunlight resistant stickers are acceptable.<BR><BR><BR>The following
correction items are in commonly overlooked.<BR>* The PV
source and PV output circuits can not be contained in the<BR>same raceways per
690.4(B).<BR>* A newer and commonly missed requirement is
the identification of<BR>conductors of different systems. The conductors of the
DC are required<BR>to be identified differently per 2007 CEC 310.12, 215.12,
210.5(C) and<BR>200.6. The 2007 CEC is based on the 2005 NEC.<BR>*
Please download the CalOSHA requirements for the installation
of<BR>ladders. Inspectors will not climb ladders that are not compliant
with<BR>the requirements. Please be prepared to install a suitable
ladder,<BR>inspectors may not be permitted adequate time to wait for
the<BR>installation of various ladders.<BR><BR>If I can be of further help
please don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks<BR><BR><BR>Nick
Katsenis<BR>Combination Building Inspector<BR>1685 Main Street<BR>Santa Monica,
CA 90401<BR><BR>310.458.2201 ext.8120<BR>310.458.2104 Fax<BR><FONT
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href="mailto:nicholas.katsenis@smgov.net">nicholas.katsenis@smgov.net</A><BR><BR></FONT>
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<FONT color=#888888><BR></FONT>my response draft is:<BR><BR>Nick-<BR><BR>The
following correction items are in commonly overlooked.<BR>>
* The PV source and PV output circuits can
not be contained in the<BR>> same raceways per 690.4(B).<BR><BR>the rest of
the sentence you are referencing is:<BR><BR>"as feeder or branch circuits of
other systems..."<BR><BR>The clarification note in the handbook is:<BR><BR>For
example, 690.4(B) does not permit the conductors supplying an exterior lighting
fixture located in close proximity of a roof- mounted PV array to be installed
in the same raceway or cable with the conductors of PV source circuits or PV
output circuits.<BR>Conductores directly related to a specific PV system, such
as those in dc and ac output power circuits, may be contained in the same
raceway as PV source and output conductors... (page 1020 2005 NEC
Handbook)<BR><BR>We would only be running the solar circuits in our raceways
connecting different runs to our gear. Are you saying you have a concern about
such a raceway?<BR><BR>Nick Vida <BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>Any thoughts Wrenches?<BR><FONT
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