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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>NWES sells 600
to 2000 AHR batteries will these units test in that range?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dana
Orzel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Great
Solar Works, Inc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>E
- dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>V
- 970.626.5253<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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- 970.626.4140<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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- 970.209.4076<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“I'd put
my money on solar energy… I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal
run out before we tackle that.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>—Thomas
Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, March 1931</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry
Crutcher, Starlight Solar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 27, 2009 4:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] FW: Battery impedance analyzers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Dana, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>That was a strange response you
got. Just because someone buys a damaged battery on eBay that later needs
replacing means nothing. To say "the battery industry is working on a reliable
device" sounds like this person is unfamiliar with this type of
equipment. There are several analyzer manufactures building high tech
models. Some models cost over $7000. I doubt they would have a market if there
operation or value was questionable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>See:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><a
href="http://www.sbsbattery.com/subpage_index.php?_subp_=94">http://www.sbsbattery.com/subpage_index.php?_subp_=94</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="http://www.btechinc.com/btech-products-pit.shtml">http://www.btechinc.com/btech-products-pit.shtml</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Larry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Dana
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I forwarded this query to Rob Shappell of NWES here is his
response. SEE Below.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dana Orzel</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Great Solar Works, Inc</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.solarwork.com">www.solarwork.com</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>E -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>V - 970.626.5253</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>F - 970.626.4140</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>C - 970.209.4076</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“I'd put my money on solar
energy… I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal run out before we
tackle that.”</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>—Thomas Edison, in conversation with
Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone, March 1931</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Rob Shappell [<a href="mailto:rob@nwes.com">mailto:rob@nwes.com</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, March 27,
2009 2:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE: [RE-wrenches]
Battery impedance analyzers</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Dana,</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have no direct information
as to their abilities.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What I can say is that we had
a battery that looked like it was melted down, I'm talking about lead terminals
that were drooping and melted!! They were cooked and starved of electrolyte! We
replaced the batteries, but some how the cooked batteries got into the hands of
a guy who had an<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>impedance
analyzers. He cleaned them up and did some testing<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> and claimed that the
batteries were all OK. Not long thereafter, the cooked batteries showed up on
eBay. Not too long after that, we sold replacement cells…..you be the
judge.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The battery industry is
working on a reliable device that makes it much easier to determine the health
of a battery, but I think it is hit and miss at this point in time.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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