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face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080><FONT size=2>H<SPAN class=328143419-01032009>ah,
just went through an episode of this last week. The epiphany was
realizing "the difference between actively networking and actively
working..." (!) and that us guys "gossip" just as much as the
ladies, but from a very different
angle....</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=328143419-01032009>I like to just get out, turn off my phone, take my
pictures, measures and mental notes, and like Joel, think about it during the
drive-times and overnight at minimum, until I have the utility bills and know
what needs to be done vs. knowing what can be done,
etc.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=328143419-01032009>Twitter? still not sure what that is, and what
comes to mind doesn't seem appropriate...at least not for this
forum!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Wind-sun.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:44
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Is a Smart
Phone a Useful Tool in PV?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri size=2>I have gotten to the point where I turn off or
don't have any more a lot of the "future tech" gadgets. You reach a point where
you are spending more time fooling with that than with actually DOING stuff.
There comes a time when there is too much communication - or actually too much
trivial babbling and less real communication. For the most part anymore, if
you want to get hold of me use the phone or send an email. I am no longer
interested in getting your text messages at 2am.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri size=2>But I am kind of a dinosaur - I am not even a
facebook or twitter fan...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>..................................................................................................<BR>Northern
Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since
1979<BR>..................................................................................................</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net">Joel Davidson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Is a Smart
Phone a Useful Tool in PV?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I used a hackberry from 2003 to
2007 for phone calls, voicemail messages from worldwide time zones,
emails w/o attachments and lots of typos, PV system problem alarms,
and occasional internet use (like booking a flight on line while standing in
line at the airport, finding phone numbers, etc.). We planned to use
hackberries for roof-to-office transfer of site photos, short movies, and
other info to speed up estimates but that never happened. We went
almost everywhere with our hackberries to the point where most of us felt
phantom hip vibrations when not packin' the darn thing. Now I am back to
using a cell phone, separate camera, and handwritten field notes.
When designing and quoting PV systems to last for decades, speed in the
field is less important than time to think (like during the drive back to
the shop and overnight). I am interested in hearing otherwise
from hackberry devotees.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Cvsolar2@aol.com
href="mailto:Cvsolar2@aol.com">Cvsolar2@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Is a Smart Phone
a Useful Tool in PV?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 PTSIZE="10">Hey
Everybody;<BR> I'm trying to justify
switching to smart phone technology. (BlackBerry Curve.) My Immediate
supervisor just gets this "I don't know Dan" look on her face. Others
question the need for that level of communication in the field. Good point.
But I can kinda rationalize the argument both ways. What can I reasonably
expect to get out of this thing for the $$? (that I can't do with a phone).
Is there a "killer app"? The GPS stuff looks cool. The calendar -- maybe. A
contact manager? I pretty much work out of a Hand book/scheduler now. and
doing OK with it. (Whole lot easier to make corrections with an eraser --
shoot, I can hardly even see that little key pad -- Yes, I should get new
glasses) I can see where the ability to exchange files could be
helpful.<BR>I guess I'm just a bit gun shy maybe. I remember "Back in the
day," when personal computers were making their grand debut, I was seeing so
much "stuff" coming and going (Remember FORTRAN, COBOL and BASIC? or the
6502?) So I decided to study Assembly, but looking back, even that degree
was pretty much obsolete the day I stepped off the stage. Let's just say I'm
a bit apprehensive.<BR><BR>Anyway, I thought this might be a good
forum to turn to for insight. thanks db <BR><BR>Dan
Brown<BR>President<BR>Foxfire Energy Corp.<BR>Renewable Energy Systems
<BR>(802)-483-2564<BR>www.Foxfire-Energy.com<BR>NABCEP
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