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clean break flush with the ground? Hit it with a hammer. It snaps
clean off, flush with the ground. Works with clay pipe too. Concrete
may provide additional strength in a compressive mode, but has nearly zero
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they managed to scrape up enough cash to buy 300 watts of PV and a rack, but
then mounted it on 6” PVC water pipe because steel was too expensive. You
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>North Texas Renewable Energy Inc<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 02, 2009
10:02 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ryan@solar4maine.com; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] dpw top of pole mount pipe problems</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Filling the pipe with concrete would strengthen it quite a
bit but will also cause condensation on the outside during a lot of the
year. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Did I mention that pouring concrete from a half full 5
gallon pail while on a ladder is a real pain. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jim Duncan<br>
<st1:place w:st="on">North Texas</st1:place> Renewable Energy Inc<br>
817.917.0527<br>
<a href="mailto:ntrei@earthlink.net">ntrei@earthlink.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ntrei.com">www.ntrei.com</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] dpw top of pole mount pipe problems<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Wrenches i have a customer that wanted to install a dpw top
of pole mount for 18 sharp 180 watt panels. he installed his own pipe and even
after several reminders by me and a signed contract stating shcedule 80 8 inch
steel pipe he installed a 8 inch cast iron water main.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My dilemma is this he claims to wave my liability in this
install but he has been a very high maintnence customer and seems to forget
everything we talk about or he signs. so would you go ahead with the install or
is the cast iron going to shear off and the rack fall over?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>financially i have met my obligations with the customer i
can wave the labor cost and tell him to find someone else at this point if need
be i dont want to be liable for spilling 18 panels on the ground and my
insurance wouldnt cover it as we went against dpw's recomendations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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