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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>I delete them all. You can
usually tell by looking at the content, spelling, etc. that they are
bogus. I must get 15-20/week and it is a huge waste of time to try to
qualify them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>Roger
Dixon<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";
color:black'>Certified Wind Site Assessor<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>Skylands
Renewable Energy, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>908.337.2057
cell<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>908.730.6474
fax<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Constantia","serif";color:black'>roger.dixon@att.net<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris
Daum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> jryago@netscape.com; 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] solar order scams<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:maroon'>Hello Jeff et all:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:maroon'>For those who do take credit cards (and this has been said
before): with the first six digits of any credit card, you or your credit
card processor can contact the issuing bank, and they will contact the 'real'
cardholder to see if the transaction is on the up-and-up. We get several
of these a day too, and I just delete them. I used to follow up, just to
report their cards as stolen, but it's too time consuming. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:maroon'>Let the seller beware!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:maroon'>Chris Daum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:maroon'>Oasis Montana Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:maroon'>406-777-4309</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff
Yago<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> glenn.burt@glbcc.com; RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] solar order scams</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I don't know about you, but we are receiving
about 2 or 3 scam emails every single day wanting to order solar modules, solar
pumps, or other solar hardware. These are easy to spot because although
each one is from a different "firm", here are the the things to look
for that they all contain.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Usually they say they are needing this solar
equipment for a specific project, which would imply they would at least have a
basic idea of quantity and size they are looking for. Instead, they ask
for what you have in stock and can ship right away, and they will list
several totally different combinations of modules, pumps, or components which
clearly would not normally go together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The written language is terrible with very
poor grammar, yet they will give an address in the US. They try to appear
to be an established business, yet their email address is always one of
those "free" email services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>They will always ask "what credit cards
do you honor" and they will make a big deal about paying up front. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>When this was going around a few years ago,
others on the list said there was some way they worked this scam where it would
check out as a valid credit card, but after you shipped the equipment to some
bogus address, the credit card charge would be voided. I don't know how
you can do this, but I assume they rent some low cost apartment to get a street
address for a few weeks, then ship as much stuff that they can to this
address, load it all into a shipping container, which is then shipped on to
some third world country where they can sell anything solar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We tried several times to trace these
abusiness names or addresses to see if this was real, and have passed them on
to Internet fraud groups but that turned out to be a real waste of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am sure all businesses get this stuff from
time to time, but it seems like they are really targeting the solar world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Watch out.....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jeff Yago<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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