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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dana,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>See <A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think there were other lists of permit
requirements on this list but I can not find them. Perhaps someone can suggest a
search method.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=atruitt@gmail.com href="mailto:atruitt@gmail.com">Andrew Truitt</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] building
permits for PV</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dana,<BR><BR>Washington DC, Baltimore MD, San Francisco,
Berkeley and Oakland CA - none require "roof footing inspections".
However, one of our local AHJs does require a letter on company letterhead
stating our roof guarantee - maybe something you could try. We are also
required to get structural engineer stamped drawings in most jurisdictions in
Maryland. <BR><BR>This document has some info you might find
useful:<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.solartech.org/index.php/about/29-objectives/18-buildingpermits">http://www.solartech.org/index.php/about/29-objectives/18-buildingpermits</A><BR><BR>But
when faced with unreasonable AHJs I don't think any way foreword is better
than just sitting down with the Head of Permitting and explaining exactly how
you install, preferably with visual aids. And since yours seems to be
especially worried about leaks make sure you have a good counterflashed
waterproofing solution to show him. Tell him you want to work with him
but that many solar installs are completed in a day or two and to accommodate
an inspection in the middle severely impacts your project timeline.<BR><BR>And
of course it couldn't hurt to bring a box of donuts.<BR><BR>Good
luck!<BR><BR><BR>Andrew Truitt<BR>Standard Solar<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Dana Brandt <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:dana@ecotechenergy.com">dana@ecotechenergy.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Thanks
for all the feedback. Sounds like there's a ton of variation from one
jurisdiction to another. Would you all be willing to send me a list of large
cities you've worked in that do not require a building permit? I'd like to
use that to make a case against the requirement.<BR><BR>I just got back from
the inspection which verified that - yes indeed, there are L-feet and rails
on the roof. Seems pretty silly...<BR><BR>Thanks again,
<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR><BR>Dana<BR><BR>-- <BR>Dana Brandt<BR>Ecotech Energy
Systems, LLC<BR><A href="http://www.ecotechenergy.com"
target=_blank>www.ecotechenergy.com</A><BR><A
href="mailto:dana@ecotechenergy.com"
target=_blank>dana@ecotechenergy.com</A><BR>360.510.0433<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c>On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Paul Israel <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:paul@sunlightsolar.com"
target=_blank>paul@sunlightsolar.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dana,
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Firstly we all
truly sympathize, I have never heard of that one!
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not one building
department - has required that. We have installed in Oregon,
Connecticut, Rhode Island, Reno - Nevada, and Massachusetts.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are inspected
consistently for concrete pours (rebar/pads/ground mounts/pole
mounts). For most roofs in CT we are usually required to have an
Engineers Stamp for the layout relative to the rafter loading.
It depends on the jurisdiction or whether they had their
coffee. It is random.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would try and
push the manufacturer's installation instructions or get a local
engineering stamp on the layout as an alternative.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On a lighter
note, make sure to leave some exposed wet caulk. After messing
up their car, paperwork, and a couple layers of skin they surely won't
want to do that again. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good luck and let
us know how it works out. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Paul N. Israel,
President</SPAN></FONT></P>
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href="mailto:paul@sunlightsolar.com" target=_blank><FONT size=2><SPAN
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href="http://www.sunlightsolar.com/" target=_blank><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">www.sunlightsolar.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">541/389-3480
(Oregon)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">203/878-9123 x103
(CT)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">860/617-6527
(Cell)</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
target=_blank>re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
target=_blank>re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dana Brandt<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, December 08, 2008 5:46
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[RE-wrenches] building permits for PV</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi
all,<BR><BR>Until recently, we've only been required to have an electrical
permit for flush-mounted PV systems. The city has now decided to require
building permits for all PV systems and wants to come out and inspect our
L-feet attachments and rails before the modules can go up. This seems
crazy to me. What are other jurisdictions requiring? I'd love some
information I can take to the city showing that other jurisdictions aren't
requiring this type of process.<BR><BR>Thanks a lot,<BR><BR>Dana<BR
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Dana Brandt<BR>Ecotech Energy Systems, LLC<BR><A
href="http://www.ecotechenergy.com"
target=_blank>www.ecotechenergy.com</A><BR><A
href="mailto:dana@ecotechenergy.com"
target=_blank>dana@ecotechenergy.com</A><BR>360.510.0433</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
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