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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some more added thoughts. I am all for reducing
lighting electrical consumption, but only if the "improvement" is somehow
better, faster, cheaper. Almost all CFLs have poor light quality and take time
to brighten up to full intensity. Also, if you don't like mercury, then thank
the Bush administration for changing the Clean Air Act mercury limit from 5
tons to 26 tons per year for power plants. Sleaze like that
travels all the way up and down the mercury supply line.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=peter.parrish@calsolareng.com
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">Peter Parrish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] CFL lighting
and the mercury hazzard.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Carl is correct. I would add two
thoughts. We have been buying CFLs from Home Depot, Ikea and we have been
getting freebies from the Los Angels Department of Water and Power. Both the
Ikea and freebies fail in 1-2 years, so the story about 5-7 years life is a
WAG. Second, let’s all hold our collective breath: LEDs will rule the
illumination market fairly soon just as they have conquered the indication
market for many years now. It would be great if anyone has accumulated some
lifetime statistics on LED lighting. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">- Peter</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Peter T. Parrish,
Ph.D., President<BR>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<BR>820 Cynthia Ave.,
Los Angeles, CA 90065<BR>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax
323-258-8885<BR>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert.
031806-26<BR>peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Carl Emerson<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:58
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
'RE-wrenches'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[RE-wrenches] CFL lighting and the mercury hazzard.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
there,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have for years
been advocating the use of energy efficient Compact Fluorescent Lighting (CFL)
to reduce loads and reduce system cost.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A recent study by DEP
in Maine has raised the alarm about mercury poisoning form these bulbs. If
there is a breakage the resulting levels of mercury on the floor of the house
are well above acceptable limits. Secondly there seems to be little serious
effort to safely recycle these bulbs in a manner that keeps the mercury out of
the eco system.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I understand that LED
lamps are mercury free. This would seem to be a much safer
alternative.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">While many of us have
mercury amalgams in our mouth the mercury is supposedly in a form that is not
significantly ingested, whereas the mercury in a CFL is in vapour form when
hot and powder form when cold, and therefore can pose a hazard to health.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can I suggest some
discussion on this and can we do our best to keep it scientific, I don’t mean
to spread emotional alarm without due cause.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Carl
Emerson</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Free Power
Ltd.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Auckland
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