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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Peter, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I just re-read your reply and it still escapes me.
ocd...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And I posted a question the other day on the Wrenches
site about the "installed cost" relative to the ITC. </FONT></DIV>
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<LI><FONT face=Arial>I just finished talking with a home builder concerning
their clients that want PV on their new home. The cost of the PV install will
be rolled into in the mortgage. I quoted to him the amount of
the tax credit that equaled 30% of my installed cost but the builder corrected
me. </FONT><FONT face=Arial>He said the actual installed cost for federal tax
purposes, according to their tax expert, included the builders markup.
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>Now this builder specializes in super energy efficient
homes and has for 3 decades. He has asked me in the past for bids for
PV installs for his clients homes so I know that he knows something about
the process. </FONT><FONT face=Arial>Is this a legitimate pricing strategy or
is he mistaken? The language at dsireusa.org is not that
specific.</FONT></LI></UL>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The only reply I received was from Scott Sklar and he was
not really addressing the question. I even followed up off list with
him but he was not any help. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What is your approach to new home installs as far as what
you advise the client about ITC deductions since there seems a clear
distinction between new amortized construction and a retrofit PV install costs.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I realize that ultimately the homeowner is the one to
decide on the amount to add to their form 5695.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It's important to me since the current ITC, without any
rebate type incentives in most of Texas, is producing very little business.
However, the Jan 1 increase comes on top of a rebate program starting on 12-1-08
for $2.46/W. This will definitely drive new business. The rebate is only within
the Oncor Electric Delivery service area, approximately 3m households. I need to
know how the PV community is promoting the ITC. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Any help you can offer won't be taken as tax
advice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>thx</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jim Duncan<BR>North Texas Renewable Energy
Inc<BR>817.917.0527<BR><A
href="mailto:ntrei@earthlink.net">ntrei@earthlink.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.ntrei.com">www.ntrei.com</A> </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=peter.parrish@calsolareng.com
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">Peter Parrish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Need help to
get power torque wrench</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Don’t forget to hire the installer with
OCD, to man your solution :-}</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Peter T. Parrish,
President<BR>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<BR>820 Cynthia Ave., Los
Angeles, CA 90065<BR>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax
323-258-8885<BR>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<BR><A
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</A>
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>North Texas Renewable Energy
Inc<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November
12, 2008 11:20 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Need help to get power torque wrench</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wrenches</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have adapted a 1/4 inch
drive deep, 6 point socket onto a T-handled hand tapping wrench. It makes for
a balanced tightening tool for long spins of the nuts onto the T bolts. The T
handle is removable to easily stash in a tool pouch.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Don't forget the anti-seize
goop.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Duncan<BR>North Texas
Renewable Energy Inc<BR>817.917.0527<BR><A
href="mailto:ntrei@earthlink.net">ntrei@earthlink.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.ntrei.com">www.ntrei.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello Darryl,<BR>I am a big fan of
manually tightening all bolts and panel clips on any array. I have done this
on a MW tracker and racking systems on schools, which were checked by a
special inspector who required them to be hand torqued and yes it's a lot,
but in many peoples minds hand tightened is worth it. I do know folks who
use a cordless drill and turn the setting down so as not to strip bolts and
then go through and torque by hand. <BR><BR>Mostly this is a personnel
opinion on the process and wanted to relay my
experiences.<BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Darryl Thayer
<<A href="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com">daryl_solar@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi all, I need advice<BR>I am soon
starting a 1000 module system, uning top down mounts, What power tools will
tighten to torque specification? I will want to tighten each SS 1/4"
nut on bolt to proper specs. This is about 2000 bolts, so i want a
power tool, either air or battery electric, or electric that will tighten to
specification.<BR><BR>Thanks Darryl<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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