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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>It would seem to me that a properly
designed off-grid system with a properly engineered battery (or other) back-up
subsystem would provide a continuous source of power. One may need to do a load
calc to show that the PV system (under a suitable worst case scenario) can indeed
provide the 24 hour load requirements. </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Peter</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Peter T. Parrish, </span></font></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>
Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Bogan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
3:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jryago@netscape.com;
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] permit
denined since no grid connection</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jeff,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had a couple off-grid installations
(newly constructed homes) where the owners could not get their certificate of
occupancy until the off-grid system was installed and inspected. Once it passed
they officially could move in.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Richard</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Yago<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
1:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> allan@positiveenergysolar.com;
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] permit
denined since no grid connection</span></font></p>

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Thank goodness this was not my project, but I just received a call from a
couple that had purchased an old farm house in a rural part of the
state that was almost a mile from utility lines and never had power. 
They are renovating the old farmhouse and applied for all permits from county
and have no problem with having inspections.  However, the electrical
permit was denied on the basis there was "no contineous source of
power and this would not be classified as a weekend type
cabin".   Yes, I guess its possible a local county can make up
their own rules, but I am not aware of any requirement in the NEC, and if there
is a specific rule, I would think all they would need to do is provide
information on their proposed generator/solar/battery/inverter system.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We have never had any problems like this in any other
counties we have systems, but before I advise them on how to proceed I
wanted to make sure that there were no specific code
requirements other than the electrical inspection.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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