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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We had a lot of resistance from the unions.  I remember testifying
before a Senate hearing and there were just three of us from the industry
speaking for the creation of the license. The unions had at least 6 paid
lobbyists speaking against it.  In the end we prevailed when a Senator
asked the union lobbyists for specific details of their renewable energy
training programs and they had none in place!  To help bring peace, we put
together a 10kw project with the local utility to be installed on the State
Capitol.  We handed it to the unions to install and coordinated it with a
professional pv training course.  The thing to remember is this industry
is going to grow so fast, there will not be enough solar electricians to do all
the work and we need the manpower of the traditional electrical industry to
help deploy all the solar yet to be installed!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br>
Bob Maynard</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>VP NW
Distribution Sales</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>gr</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:yellow'>o</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Solar</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> What
the World Needs. <b>NOW</b></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>535 NE Westbrook Way</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Grants Pass, OR 97526<br>
Direct:     541.291.4044</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>TollFree: 800.467.6527 x4044 <br>
Fax:         541.476.7480  <br>
Mobile:   541.761.1636<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.grosolar.com/"><span style='font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif"'>groSolar.com</span></a>  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://blog.grosolar.com/"><span style='font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif"'>http://blog.groSolar.com</span></a> <br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>North America’s Premier Installer, Distributor and
Integrator of Solar Energy Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Distributor for Evergreen Solar, Suntech Power, SMA, Fronius, PV
Powered,  Outback Power, GridPoint, UniRac, Heliodyne SHW and other
premier renewable energy products</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>North
Texas Renewable Energy Inc<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] State licensing for PV installers in Texas<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Having
watched enviously for years as other states put PV incentive programs into
place, I have seen the opposition from the electrical unions and large
electrical contractors, especially in California.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What sort of
friction did Oregons licensing procedure experience compared to California?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jim Duncan<br>
North Texas Renewable Energy Inc<br>
817.917.0527<br>
<a href="mailto:ntrei@earthlink.net">ntrei@earthlink.net</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ntrei.com">www.ntrei.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bob.maynard@grosolar.com"
title="bob.maynard@grosolar.com">Bob Maynard</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, October
29, 2008 4:50 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [RE-wrenches]
State licensing for PV installers in Texas<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In Oregon we have a Limited Renewable Energy Technician
license.  We are capped at 25kw and can do residential and
commercial.  The LRT license does not allow us to make final AC
connections on any system and requires a site visit from an electrician.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br>
Bob Maynard</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>VP NW
Distribution Sales</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>gr</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:yellow'>o</span></b><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Solar</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> What
the World Needs. <b>NOW</b></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>535 NE Westbrook Way</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Grants Pass, OR 97526<br>
Direct:     541.291.4044<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>TollFree: 800.467.6527 x4044 <br>
Fax:         541.476.7480  <br>
Mobile:   541.761.1636<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.grosolar.com/"><span style='font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif"'>groSolar.com</span></a>  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://blog.grosolar.com/"><span style='font-family:
"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif"'>http://blog.groSolar.com</span></a> <br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>North America’s Premier Installer, Distributor and
Integrator of Solar Energy Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Distributor for Evergreen Solar, Suntech Power, SMA, Fronius, PV
Powered,  Outback Power, GridPoint, UniRac, Heliodyne SHW and other
premier renewable energy products<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>North Texas Renewable Energy Inc<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE Wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] State licensing for PV installers in Texas<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wrenches</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>the Texas Dept
of Licensing and Regulation has (finally) proposed a Limited Solar
Electric License for installers in Texas. There is currently no
"solar license" in Texas. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Among other
fairly arbitrary and borderline ridiculous potential requirements (IMHO) is a
50 kWDC cap on the size of systems allowed, based on inverter rated output.
Also the license holder may not work on commercial installations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Are these
typical of the license restrictions in other states? </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jim Duncan<br>
North Texas Renewable Energy Inc<br>
817.917.0527<br>
<a href="mailto:ntrei@earthlink.net">ntrei@earthlink.net</a><br>
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