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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">Hi Matt et al,</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">Sorry for missing my que to respond.</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">As mentioned, the big concerns is mineral content in the water which will adhere to the plate and "take the place" of a possible reaction site - thus reducing capacity.</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">As you can imagine, water quality is a concern from both the input and output standpoint and we have an outside Environmental Consultant group review water (and air) quality 1/4ly. We are very fortunate that even untreated/ filtered, has negligible mineral content. I have never been in a battery plant that uses distilled water but (almost) all, I have seen, use a form of filtration / dionizing before use.</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">Hard water is a definite no no!</font> </p>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3"> </font><br><br>>>> "R. Walters" <walters@taosnet.com> 09/04/08 10:44 PM >>><br>Matt; </p>
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I've used the watering systems for years as well, but never the tap connect. </p>
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We have hard water here too, good to know that our distilled water mania is not in vain. </p>
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On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Matt wrote: </p>
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We sell plenty of watering systems, but none are fed from an actual pressurized tap. The "best" one uses a manual water release on top of each cap; this prevents over-filling when (not if) something sticks. </p>
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I have never used non-distilled water in a battery, but I have replaced a couple of banks that were wrecked by using well water with a high mineral content. </p>
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I never used it, but Battery Watering Systems has used them for </p>
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I still use distilled H2O, myself BTW. </p>
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Have you actually experienced ruined batteries from ionized or </p>
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Am I correct about this Jamie? </p>
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regulator that plumbs right to the water tap with a small filter. </p>
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Apparently we in the solar business are more anal about using </p>
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