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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But then there's the Xantrex GT.... Not your cold-weather
friend. I know of a project in CO that had to replace approx 280 of
them last winter. Word I got was that the actual low-temp was warmer than
the spec.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I recommended against using that inverter in that
application, for this and other reasons that I won't go into here. The
project engineers bought Xantrex's story that they would be fine. Guess
they were for a month or so.... At least part of me hopes that Schneider
will put a stop to the historical release of products and engineering by
Xantrex that doesn't pass muster.... These practices aren't good
for the bottom line, no matter what kind of beans you're
counting.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Sunshine Wishes,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Matt L</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234151817-31082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>David
Palumbo<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter temp spec for cold
regions<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937345212-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Same
experience here as Tump's. We are located in Northern Vermont, get's down
to -40F. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937345212-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937345212-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>James
Worden of Solectria gave us the go ahead to mount his inverters outdoors. SMA
also gave us their blessing, and Fronius said that the capacitors in their
inverters were the same ones used in their welding equipment used in Siberia -
so they too also told us no problem. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937345212-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937345212-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Tump<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
allan@positiveenergysolar.com; 'RE-wrenches'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Inverter temp spec for cold regions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718253110-28082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Here
in Maine I guess we've got the stupid Caps cause they don't know enough to
blow up when cold! My SMA inverter shouldn't work cause its been outside now
for 3 years! & I guess that my SW4048s don't work anymore too. they
lived outside since 1998.We DO have some low temps & the only thing I have
seen is the LCD displays are not reliable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Allan
Sindelar<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE
Wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Inverter temp spec for cold
regions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Inverter manufacturers have an
ambient temperature range with a lowe<SPAN class=343474203-22082008><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT color=#000000>st</FONT> </FONT></SPAN> temperature
spec. For example, SMA has a spec of -13 to +113 degrees F.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In our area of
</SPAN><st1:State><st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">New
Mexico</SPAN></st1:place></st1:State><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, we have a record cold
temperature well below the -13 degrees F. If we mounted the inverter on an
outside wall or on a pole, this would expose the inverter.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I called SMA and asked about
this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They told me that the
capacitor blows up if it goes below the coldest temperature.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My question is does anybody have
experience with this issue in the cold regions of the
</SPAN></FONT><st1:country-region><st1:place><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">US</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:country-region><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> like
</SPAN></FONT><st1:State><st1:place><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Colorado</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:State><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> or
</SPAN></FONT><st1:State><st1:place><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Montana</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:State><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you always mount the inverter
inside in those cold regions?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Randy
Sadewic<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Positive
Energy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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