<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">My best customers start with nothing and are thrilled with solar. The worst want everything for nothing.<div>The third world will leave us to drown in our own pollution in 50 years if we don't get to work.</div><div>Either this country takes up its roll as leader or we hand over the torch.</div><div><br></div><div>Ray</div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">In the meantime, there's lots of fun to be had getting Americans to cut their energy consumption five-fold and/or helping people with no electricity improve their living standards without polluting like Westerners.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">There's hope for us yet. Keep up the good work. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Joel Davidson</font></div> <blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="walters@taosnet.com" href="mailto:walters@taosnet.com">R. Walters</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:38 AM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question</div> <div><br></div>Hi Joel; <div><br></div> <div>I made a list of strategies we use a couple of emails back in this string. I'll reiterate:</div> <div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Here in Northern New Mexico we use adobes (lots of thermal mass) and open up to the cool night air. </font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">When I lived through Texas summers, you either ponied up for AC, went to your mountain home, or suffered.</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Dana stated the first 2 steps: </font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">super insulate & increase thermal mass.</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Next ?? : </font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Reduce your cubic footage of air conditioned space. (Just cool a couple of inner rooms.)</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Share walls & cooling systems (like apartments, duplexs, etc)</font></div></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Reduce east & west glazing</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Grow overhanging deciduous trees on the East & West</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Use Fans</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Use some evaporative cooling if possible</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Use small High efficiency AC units (Sanjo?)</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Raise thermostat setting</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Use geothermal heat pumps</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face="Helvetica" size="3">Migrate?</font></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><br></div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Ray</div> <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><br></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></body></html>