Being new to this list thing, and the internet as well, I'm having a hard time following it all.  I wonder if it would be a good idea for everyone on the list to have a list of who is on there?  Something like:  "name, company, E-mail address".I find it hard to get familiar with who is who without some kind of tool like this.  Or am I just too compulsive and orderly?
 
    By the way, this thing is a real hoot.  If I had more work going right now, I wouldn't be talking so much, but, as it is, it's like going to the Post Office more than once a day.  I never suspected that there are so many other people out there besides me who choose such a difficult way to earn a living.  It sure would be easier and more-profitable to wire condos, but I wouldn't want to have to go backward.  My personal goal is to install one megawatt of renewable power in this lifetime.  At the rate I'm going, I'll have to be still working at age 90 to accomplish that goal, but I hope that our society comes around to sustainability more-quickly so I can slow down some before then.
 
    As I read the postings, I am coming to realize how lucky I am to live within close driving distance of a fairly affluent area (Boulder).  That allows me a way to earn my required income and still spend time chasing RE work.  Until the work is more widespread and steady, it looks like most of us will continue to need some kind of steady part-time work for basic income.  Some who have been at it long enough may not need that, but probably most still do.  I know of a gentleman in Boulder who, last time I heard, does alot of work with UPS systems, as well as RE work.  Consulting for energy efficiency might be another good sideline business for RE Wrenches.  There's alot of work in changing out lighting in commercial buildings.  Energy conservation has a very short payback period and has the potential to keep much CO2 and other crap out of our air and keep the dead dinosaurs in the ground where they belong.  It's not a hard sell when you look at the numbers.  Trouble with these ideas is that they mostly only work in an urban/suburban/commercial area.  What are Wrenches to do in the areas away from the cities besides drive into the city?  When there's no RE work, how do we eat?  How do all you listening out there do it?  We need to help each other here, if we can.
 
    Last thing, I'd like to clarify my last posting re:  grid tie marketing. 1).  I don't mean to say that marketing grid-tied systems is a waste of time.  I think that it is a very viable market, and something that really should be done.  I agree that PV panels on houses should be as common as skylights.  I don't know if the way to do it is to appeal to people's sense of greed or status, though.  Indeed that may work with some people, but I hold out hope that most people will do what is good for the planet if they can.  It's probably a long, hard road to really make it happen.  People in-general will need to be aware of how we are trashing the planet, then they will have to care, and then they will need to know what to do about it.  Worse yet, our corporate-government continues to drag its heels behind a populace that is already coming around to caring.  It ain't gonna be easy, but somebody has got to do the work.  Guess we have all volunteered already, huh?  2).  R&D (Rob & Duplicate) was a joke, OK?  I don't mean to suggest that anyone steal copyrighted material.  Am I getting paranoid here?  I mean to say that, if you're thinking about trying to market grid-tied systems, you don't have to reinvent the wheel.  There are probably several companies around the country who have been chasing that market for awhile now.  The energy has already been invested to a point.  Might as well see where things are at already and go from there, and adapt ideas to your own local market.  There are alot of people in the cities and suburbs and towns who really do want to make a difference from where they are.  Everyone can't move to the country.  3).  I think there's a great potential market for grid-tied systems.  It's just that this little dog can't compete with the big dog in this area. 
 
    Preaching to the choir here?  I don't mean to.  It would be good to hear from more of you out there, though.  So, I pose two questions for The List:
 
1).  Should there be a list of who is on the list?  Including what information?
2)..What are some ideas for "fill in" work for those of us who don't live near an urban center?  How's everyone doing it now?
 
        -Don Wallingford
        Quicksilver Electrical Service
        Frederick,Colo.