[RE-wrenches] Is this city inspector just full of it? His comments and my response. City is on NEC 2023
Christopher Warfel
cwarfel at entech-engineering.com
Sat Mar 7 08:39:14 PST 2026
I'd say you have it covered. Chris
On 3/6/2026 10:29 PM, scot.arey--- via RE-wrenches wrote:
> Read and reply only if you want to stick it to an inspector 🙂
>
> System is 19 modules with Enphase IQ8: NM through attic and he insists
> it must be guarded or in conduit. His comment back to me on why he
> failed the inspection and I tried to tell him that the IQ8 output is
> not a PV source circuit.
>
> /Good afternoon, I have just read your email and would like to inform
> you that your code reference is spot on. 690.6 A PV
> //Source// Circuit refers to a NRTL Listed assembly and is exclusive
> to the wiring from the Panel to the Microinverter, it as a listed
> assembly is not subject to the DC rules of 690.. 690.6 b refers to
> the Inverter Output Circuit and is not exempt from the rules of 690.7
> Circuit Requirements, Specifically D which states, “Circuits over 150
> volts to ground. In one and two family dwellings, live parts in PV
> source circuits and PV output circuits over 150 volts to ground Shall
> Not be accessible to other than qualified persons while energized. The
> commentary for this code states, Conduit, closed cabinets, or
> enclosures that require tools to open them are means of limiting
> access to qualified persons only. These circuits are production and
> not utilization circuits and therefore must be protected from physical
> damage and errant tampering. As was noted at Plan Review/
>
> /Dd/
>
> /
> /
> My proposed response:
>
> I have read your reply and believe you have mis-cited code references.
> You wrote:
>
> /"690.6 b refers to the Inverter Output Circuit and is not exempt from
> the rules of 690.7 Circuit Requirements, Specifically D which states,
> “Circuits over 150 volts to ground. In one and two family dwellings,
> live parts in PV source circuits and PV output circuits over 150 volts
> to ground Shall Not be accessible to other than qualified persons
> while energized."/
> /
> /
> 690.6b is here.
> 690.7 (D) does not reference "circuits over 150-volts..." but is
> pasted here. This is a reference to marking of direct current (DC) PV
> circuits. This does not apply because the inverter output circuit is
> not a "DC PV Circuit."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The section that almost refers to "/PV output circuits over 150 volts
> to ground Shall Not be accessible" /is not in NEC 2023 which is what
> Temple uses. I have pasted the 2020 language, which is not the
> language you cite to me, and even that is referring to "PV source and
> output" circuits and the NEC 2020 definition of "PV source and
> output" deals with DC. I have pasted and highlighted that definition
> below.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So we are left with the fact that an inverter output circuit is
> alternating current, as defined under NEC 2023. Definition in Section 100:
>
>
> We are left with Chapter 3 wiring to address this AC circuit. There is
> no NEC 2023 reference to "These circuits are production and not
> utilization circuits and therefore must be protected from physical
> damage and errant tampering." Simply not in code.
>
>
> If you insist I put the AC wire in conduit, please tell me the
> requirement. If it's "I just want it in conduit" then just ell me
> that. But there is little to justify it in NEC 2023.
>
>
>
> *Howard "Scot" Arey*
> *Owner, Solar CenTex*
>
> NABCEP PV Installation Professional
> TECL 29755
> 254-300-1228
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here:http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address:RE-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
--
Christopher Warfel, PE
ENTECH Engineering, Inc.
PO Box 871, Block Island, RI 02807
(401) 447-5773
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 136049 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0007.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 1134546 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0008.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 470202 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0009.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 46022 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0010.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 193618 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0011.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image.png
Type: image/png
Size: 414241 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0012.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: Outlook-dzzqmyah.png
Type: image/png
Size: 294949 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20260307/20b98e49/attachment-0013.png>
More information about the RE-wrenches
mailing list