[RE-wrenches] GSL Energy LiFePO tripping out issue

Tue Apr 8 06:43:47 PDT 2025

I once had a Fortress eVault misbehaving.  I found that one of the little
tiny crimps in the Molex-like connectors was not made correctly.  When I
would tug at certain angles it would trip the relay.  I was able to do a
field repair.

Another thing that maybe the manufacturer can help with is downloading
history from the BMS.  Given the history of the installation, the BMS may
be doing its job.  If there is no indication that it sent the signal to
trip out (maybe you have certain dates that you can zoom in on), then I'd
look for component/control wiring failures.

Good luck and let us know!

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 7:30 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> If I understand it correctly, the K3 relay is being powered into the off
>  mode indicating it’s a BMS issue as it’s getting power to do that.
> And since it appears to happen either while charging or under load, which
> should eliminate high volt issues, again it seems like a BMS problem.
> How to deal with it if the company is telling you to pound sand?
> The options are to modify it, or replace it with another brand Bms or
> replace the whole battery.
>
> When you factor in your time/money and need for reliability vs how
> inexpensive these batteries, I think it’ll point to the solution.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2025, at 6:49 AM, Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>  I once was at an installation by others doing a T/S with a single OB
> Radian & 2 - FM 100s that worked & then did not work. In removing the front
> door the FM 100 s Woke up briefly & then off as I was tracing wires it
> happened again. I tapped/ knocked on the GS box  & the FMs briefly woke up
> agin & turned off. At the same time I heard a slight “dizzith” crackle or a
> short arc sound. The sound was so quiet if anything had been running ie:
> fans etc I wouldn’t have heard it.
> Started to do a wire tug test carefully & discovered that both of the
> negative wire terminals had not been tightened down for the battery
> negative conductors at the shunt terminals. Good case for  having taped the
> shaft on your long screw driver to get to the back of the GS box with the
> AC - DC breaker bar held to the left while Working hot.
>
> Dana Orzel - dana at solarwork.com - 208.721.7003
>
> On Apr 7, 2025, at 9:27 PM, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> 
> I'd look for weak/loose internal control circuitry, especially connected
> to the K3 contractor or it's drive coil. Grab, pull, twist all connectors
> and see if the relay responds.
>
> Good luck 🤞
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2025, 4:54 PM Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> What voltages are you using with it for ABS? Are you running open loop?
>> Does the battery pretend to be Pylontech or some other protocol?
>>
>> Maybe the BMS is tripping from high volts, even for a brief period.
>>
>> The spec does say maximum of 56V.
>>
>> Most all other 16S LiFePO4 can go much higher, in theory to:
>>
>> 3.65 max cell voltage = 58.4
>> 3.5 vpc is 56V
>> 3.45 vpc = 55.2V, my favorite sweet spot
>> 3.4 vpc = 54.4 is preferred by a few vendors.
>>
>> Is the Sol-Ark on the internet so you can look at voltage charts? If so,
>> I can look at it if you want/can share it.
>>
>>
>> Absorb time is another story.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Maverick
>>
>> Maverick Brown
>> Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
>> Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.
>>  • Solar Commander Remote Power
>>  • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection
>> maverick at mavericksolar.com
>> 512-460-9825
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2025, at 5:00 PM, Kevin Pegg via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hello Wrenches,
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone seen this before? I’m dealing with a battery bank that keeps
>> tripping out, opening the K3 contactor, randomly. I can’t find any pattern
>> nor cause. Voltage is ok, load ok, temperature ok. It could be during the
>> day under PV charge, or in the evening. The battery bank is paired with a
>> SolArk 15k. Same behavior if it’s closed loop or open loop voltage-based
>> control. SolArk tech support said it was not supported in closed loop. GSL
>> tech support has not been useful and refuses to address the issue at hand.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is close but not exact model.
>>
>>
>> https://www.gslenergybattery.com/20kwh-wheel-design-solar-energy-storage-battery--2048kwh-lifepo4--modular--scalable--10-year-warranty--ul-certified
>>
>>
>>
>> I wrote about this same project Dec 2024 was able to recover a frozen and
>> 18 months abandoned deeply discharged battery bank. Capacity wise, they are
>> fine. This site is not continually occupied; I just don’t know how to get
>> it to the point where the system is reliable. Tempting to bypass the K3
>> contactor, as it still would have a secondary one for safety.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Pegg
>>
>> EA Energy Alternatives Ltd.
>>
>> 37471 Hwy 16
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>>
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