[RE-wrenches] Midnite Inverter products, monitoring

Thu Mar 27 12:05:44 PDT 2025

Firmware can be pushed over the web

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:38 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Thx Ray.
> Well to me if I have to bring a computer for firmware updates let me know
> when they change that. That’s a nonstarter
>
> The LUX power and solark can do firmware via the web, no laptop required.
> No updated firmware required to turn on
> Adjustments can be made via the built in screen, app, or online.
> One quirk is one update required the display to be updated but that can
> only be done via usb drive Mac or pc is fine.
>
> Still a ways to go yet but it is getting closer.
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2025, at 10:00 AM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Firmware updates of the Midnite AIO are Not via the app.  You have to get
> a special dongle thing from Midnite, and Yes use a Windows based laptop to
> do it.
>
> 2nd issue:  you can not do any programming or change voltage settings on
> the inverter itself, everything is through the phone app.
>
> 3rd issue: the App doesn't always work, and I had to download it and
> delete it, redownload it 5 times, before I could finally connect to the
> AIO.  I was in Puerto Rico with very poor cell service, so Frustration
> levels were very high.
>
> 4th issue: if you turn on the AIO without doing the programming setup, you
> can lock the inverter. Stupid me thought I could just turn the inverter ON,
> and it would start inverting.  It took several hours to get it to work and
> take the programming.  I was literally about to Cry.  I've been in offgrid
> solar since 1988, and this was one of the worst experiences I've ever had.
> Luckily Midnite support is excellent, and they hung in there until we
> finally got it.
>
> 5th issue: programming doesn't necessarily take the first time, and I had
> to change settings sometimes 3 times, before it would finally take.  My
> confidence level that it will do what I thought is low.  Leaving it in a
> remote location, with no one local knowledgeable to correct issues, is
> seriously troubling.
>
> Once again, regardless of manufacturer, ALL AIOs are made in China,
> designed in China, programmed in China, and are IMO, not suitable for off
> grid remote applications.  They are for DIY folks and avg. grid tie solar
> companies that want to play around with GTB.  I've tried Solark, Midnite,
> Fortress, EG4, and all have not instilled confidence, and/ or had major
> problems off grid.  Fine for GTB, but live full time on it?  Stake your
> family's lives on it?  NO WAY.
>
> I'm willing to try the Rosie for my next off grid job, because I still
> trust Midnite, and because I just don't see any good alternatives, now that
> Magnum and Outback are down.   BTW, I still have old Trace SWs inverting
> their hearts' out.  Not ready to replace them.
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> On 3/27/2025 9:27 AM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> I’m pretty sure it’s all done via an app on your phone ( either platform)
> to set up the wifi connection.
> Then via the app you can do all sorts of things or via the web browser.
> Again either platform works.
>
> Jay
>
> On Mar 27, 2025, at 9:07 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
> <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> wrote:
>
> 
> My first AIO/PowerFlo16 is coming up, and it's a triple inverter
> installation. I can't wait!
>
> But I thought the Firmware update process was much easier – all available
> to do remotely. Is that not the case? I assume it requires a Windows laptop
> like EG4, HomeGrid, etc. That's something else I don't want to carry in my
> truck. I'm a Mac user.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
> Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 10:15 AM Tyrone Houck via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> In my experience the communication between battery/inverter has been
>> seamless, the internet connectivity has also been very reliable. You can
>> program settings and monitor remotely. No email notifications. I have only
>> installed the AIO and haven't used the Rosie, Hawkes Bay, or Barcelona..my
>> favorite inverter/battery combo by far is the AIO/Powerflo16. Installer
>> monitoring platform works consistently though it would be great if they
>> came up with a more mobile friendly platform for the installer. The user
>> app is good and could probably be improved but I don't have any overt
>> complaints. It's important to update inverter firmware immediately upon
>> installation.. but the firmware installation program is super easy to
>> use(you need a special cable assembly and a laptop). So far we have 7
>> separate sites in the field and all are working very well. Soon we will be
>> installing our first multi inverter parallel system with the AIO and are
>> looking forward to it.
>> Overall, I'm a fan.
>>
>> Tyrone Houck
>> Oregon Solarworks LLC
>> CCB #204937 LRT #076
>> 541-787-1366
>> tyrone at oregonsolarworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 AM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Wrenches,
>>>
>>> I would appreciate opinions about the Midnite product line up, strengths
>>> and weaknesses in regard to off-grid deployment.
>>> 1.   Midnite AIO
>>> 2.   Midnite Rosie, Barcelona, Hawkes Bay system
>>> 3.   How is the online monitoring/control platform for these systems?
>>> Last I checked it was in development, but its been a while.  Can you adjust
>>> system parameters remotely?  Receive warning/error emails?
>>> 4.  Any issues with battery communications?
>>>
>>> Generally, Im a big fan of Midnite, I really like how you can call them
>>> and talk with someone smart.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac Lewis
>>>
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