[RE-wrenches] Power conditioner for Trace inverter

[Jerry Shafer]

I must agree with Ray, that inverter was never intended to run the slew of
electronics we have now. There are gadgets out on the market that may do
what you want but the reliability is in question. Does this site have a
genny? Using the  that may get you past the issue but not solving the
problem. Upgrading the inverter would be my answer too. Good luck on
presenting this to your customer.
Not so fun times

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:12 PM Ray via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> That's about what to expect from the Psuedo Sine Wave that the SWs put
> out.  They shortened the list of problem appliances significantly compared
> to "mod sine", but its a stepped pyramid wave.  Later inverters (Outback,
> Magnum) were step waves too, but just more steps, which translates to less
> trouble.
>
> Trace SW waveform
>
>
> I have cured the "washer not running on the SW" once, by adding a
> capacitor to the circuit.  I can't recommend it 100% from a safety stand
> point, but it worked for us. Some body else chime in on the possible
> dangers?  Cap blowing, fires, shorts?  Definitely needs to be in a metal
> enclosure.
>
> I think its either get a different washer or get a different inverter. At
> 22+ years, its slowly reaching the time to retire those old SWs.
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 9/8/23 2:53 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> I would do a load test on the inverter. It may have a damaged FET or two.
> They do not last forever! Good Luck
>
>
>
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> On 2023-09-08 12:30 pm, Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> New washing machines are small loads 400 Watts about.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 2:27 PM Darryl Thayer <darylsolar1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I once used a ferro-resonant transformer to clean up a sine wave.  You
> have to know the power.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 1:59 PM Chris Daum via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks:
>
>
>
> I have a fellow with a Trace SW5548, purchased from us in 2001.  It's
> been working  great for him all this time, but the dilemma is he's gotten
> a new Hotpoint washing machine, and its electronics don't like the old
> inverter.  Is there some sort of power conditioner or 'line tamer'
> available that will work for this appliance's operation?  Any ideas would
> be greatly appreciated.  He's rather loathe to replace his inverter if he
> doesn't need to.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Chris Daum
>
> Oasis Montana Inc.
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