[RE-wrenches] SimpliPhi Power PHI3.4 Smart -Tech Batteries and LifeBlue

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

Chris,

I am impressed with a first look at Lifeblue. They seem much easier to
integrate that Simpliphi with their larger capacity and Soc data out
wireless!!!  To me this is a huge feature for my clients and myself.

On first look I will say I have been testing the LG RESU10 since last
year. To me they are the benchmark for a couple reasons. LG Chem is a 20
billion dollar company with (unlike Tesla) over 20 years of profitability.
So I feel they will be there.

The second is how the BMS calculates and continuously calibrates the Soc.
This is very different to me than any battery monitor I have used. This
becomes apparent when one goes for a week or more without getting to 100%
Soc. The LG is extremely accurate. The protection on the LG is as good as
I can think of with contactor, overcurrent protection from both a
breaker/Disco and a class T fuse. I have tested them in a DC input short
(failed DC Inverter input). It works!

So, at this time I would say the Lifeblue needs to prove itself and I
would be happy to keep an eye on all the early adapters :)

Schneider did release the Bridge for LG Chem BTW, and Outback has delayed
the Skybox until 2018 which is being tested with LG Chem also.

Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
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> Have you tried them, are they reliable?
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems <
> larry at starlightsolar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jay and Dave,
>>
>> LiFeBlue battery has a wireless Bluetooth monitor that is connected to
>> the
>> BMS in each battery. SoC, current, cycle life, voltage, health, battery
>> faults and more is provided on the free IOS or Android App. Up to 62kWh
>> at
>> 48 volts available today.
>>
>> http://www.lifebluebattery.com/the-smartest-lithium-battery/index.html
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Jay <jay.peltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes true. I haven't found the perfect off grid lithium battery.  But
>> until
>> the prices come down, I become a better sales person, or I get rich
>> clients
>> not a big problem for me.
>> You will have to use external % meter, but been doing that for long
>> time.
>>
>> Sure good comm would be better, however one of the questions no one
>> seems
>> to have an answer for is energy consumption for the BMS, any BMS.
>>
>> On a different note, how does the LG or PW deal with dark start?  If it
>> shuts down due to low voltage, how do you get it started again?
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
>> offgridsolar at sti.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jay,
>> >
>> > Without battery BMS data for Soc how does one know? I assume you need
>> an
>> > external shunt and an energy monitor? Any guidance from the
>> manufacturer?
>> >
>> > One of the nice things about the LG resu 10 is the data is all there
>> and
>> > it stays very accurate even on a week with never finishing charge to
>> > 100%.
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> > "we go where powerlines don't"
>> > http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> > e-mail  offgridsolar at sti.net
>> > text 209 813 0060
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Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
e-mail  offgridsolar at sti.net
text 209 813 0060