[RE-wrenches] Battery Transport

Wed May 24 09:20:01 PDT 2017

I've gone through the hazardous materials transportation training this year and have received a certification for transporting our LFP based AC Batteries.  Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR-49) applies to the transport of Lithium-Ion batteries by road and highway shippers and IATA regulations apply to shipments by air.

My understanding is that generally speaking, a company that is delivering batteries as part of their regular business do not need any specific certification, but should be trained on safe transportation procedures.  If you are a driver that is delivering the batteries for a shipping company, then you must be more familiar with the labeling and packaging requirements and training is required.

CFR-49, Part 172, Subpart H states that if you are a Hazmat employee, you should be trained to properly transport hazardous materials.  The employer is ultimately responsible for verifying that the employee is capable of safely transporting these materials, but no specific certification is required.

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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Transport

In the early 90s and for 2 years, I drove for an expedited freight
company. I had my radmat, hazmat and secret service endorsements.
We had to know when to placard when under a hazmat load, where and when
we could and could not travel, safe haven locations, etc.

It's the RQ amount of the hazardous substance that dictates the
procedure. The RQ tables can be found here:
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles/Files/172_101_appa.pdf

When I started my RE company 21 years ago, the first thing I did was
look into the potential issue of transporting batteries.
The RQ amount for sulfuric acid or sodium hydroxide is 1000
pounds.....that's not battery weight, it's the electrolyte weight. And
that's a LOT of battery!

Of course, Lithium is likely a different story so all I can suggest is
research it. So, as others have stated, proper securing of the load,
obeying traffic laws, etc. is sufficient.

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On 5/24/2017 7:40 AM, Dana wrote:
> If you ask the folks that regulate our lives with lots of rule to save us from ourselves, of course you must abide by the rules that vary state to state. I have hauled batteries very openly, well secured, at or below the speed limit for 29 years on a specially constructed 3 ton capacity trailer with an overhead I-beam similar to a propane tank trailer. I have hauled state to state from WA - SoCal - CO to ID & have never had a state or local patrol question what I am doing. I do not think it is a common enough site to arise interest. I have noticed the placarding on my delivery haulers and they do not even alter their placards.
> If you ask I am sure there are regulations.........
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> No problems here in the land of Fruits and Nuts. Breadbasket of the world and plenty of regulations :)
>
> Now that you have brought this up maybe it will happen?  Soligent has been great for my deliveries. I often use a local battery dealer near the owner in their state or country. That way the owner gets a local shop and I do not have to worry about returns.
>
> I just did a system down to Guatemala and put it all in the small shipping container. Mostly pretested and ready to go once they get it out of customs...
>
> Most all of my work is extreme rural and I rarely get near a big city.
> Hope this helps!
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>> HI All;
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had run into to trouble or special
>> requirements or regulations when hauling new or dead lead acid
>> batteries to and from job sites.  Do we need to be DOT approved/
>> registered?  This seems like a special case, since regular shipping
>> companies do not deliver to these remote areas.
>>
>> The regulations etc are amazingly daunting.  In the past, I've
>> considered it a case of a contractor transporting building materials
>> to the job site. We're not a carrier, that delivers packages for others for
>> a living.   We have rented a truck with a DOT# when we need something
>> over the 10,000 lb gross vehicle limit, like a 1 ton truck.  I'm
>> hoping that would be adequate.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>>
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>> R. Ray Walters
>> Chief Technical Officer, RemoteSolar.com BS Mech Engineering, 1988
>> Former NABCEP Certified, 2004-2016 Licensed Master ELectrician,
>> Colorado
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