[RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Wed Nov 30 11:16:02 PST 2016

I absolutely use a torque wrench on big electrical equipment, when
tightening 2/0 to 500MCM terminals. I carry an electronic 3/8 torque wrench
in the truck for that. When I do generators and large switchgear I regard
it as essential to get the correct torque settings and use them.
I use a set of three Filo torque screwdriver handles covering 1.5 to 4.5 Nm
with two sets of drivers, use them for all inverter connections.
I'll generally use the torque screwdriver to check a new panel, go over all
the breaker terminals once we have finished.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Kirk Herander <vtsolar at icloud.com> wrote:

> My strategy is to have several spares in a multi-bay charger, and change
> out when the battery reads 50% (2 bars). Subjective, I know, but we are
> talking in-lbs when tightening rack hardware, not ft-lbs. Anyway, I’ll
> report back to the list once I get my programmable M18’s and try it out.
>
>
>
> And I’m curious, how many of us actually use a torque wrench on the job
> with any regularity, be it rack or electrical connections? I have never
> seen an everyday electrician use one, even on serious industrial work in a
> tightly controlled jobsite. Every lug, connector, fastener has a
> recommended torque. I think we all have seen the damage heat causes as the
> result of a loose connection.
>
> The last commercial system I did, a third party was hired to audit the PV
> work. It was on the checklist to spot check torques. I have been
> spot-checking torque ever since.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ray Walters
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:14 PM
>
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and also
> with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  I agree
> its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or NiiCad, but its
> still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.
>
>
> R.Ray Walters
>
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
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> On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully
> discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Glenn Burt
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are
> depleted.
>
> Do they say that this is not so for this model?
>
>
>
> -Glenn
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be
> programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque
> levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a
> scrap piece of rail at each torque increment, measuring after with a torque
> wrench, til you have the values of each increment. Then program the drill
> buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one
> of the four buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are
> set in the drill even with battery removed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ
>
> Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18
> driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Dan Fink
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was
> good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password)
> for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting
> equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not
> calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a
> 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.....so you
> still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.
>
> Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)....and
> I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
> simple, reliable tool.
>
>
> Dan Fink
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> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett <wmdorsett at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for
> a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can
> imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the
> same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.
>
>
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh
>
>
>
> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
> other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
> and torques using a smart phone app.
>
>
>
> *Kirk Herander*
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