[RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner

Jerry Shafer jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 10 19:40:14 PDT 2016


You might want to look at the square D QO breaker line some are dc rated
and voltage rated and are panel mounted.
Jerry

On Oct 10, 2016 3:00 PM, "jay" <jay.peltz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I”ll chime in here.
>
> Yes the GSLC is a piece of junk.
> However it is UL listed for the job. And while you could put together
> something that would work with Airpax breakers together, but it wouldn’t be
> UL.
>
> What I do is to swap out all the wires to Arctic ultra flex.  This allows
> much better movement of the wires with significantly less stress on the
> terminals.   And if you want to not attach wires to the back of the
> breakers then you can and I’ve seen outback do it, install lay in lugs
> facing outwards so you can use a screwdriver or allen key on them.  Allows
> for installation and removal of wire without removal of the breaker or the
> plate/breakers.  With thimbles of course. And I can’t find them but I know
> they make them, shields that fit between each breaker so the lay in lugs
> are insulated.
>
> jay
> peltz power
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:40 PM, William Miller <william at millersolar.com>
> wrote:
>
> Chris:
>
>
> Thank you for the reply.  I think you misunderstand me.  We always use the
> GSLC cabinets.  I just don’t like the design concept that clutters the
> cabinet with AC and DC breakers that are difficult to access and block
> other components.  See photo below of a prewired GSLC Cabinet we were asked
> to work in.  Not a good scenario.
>
>
> We have created an installation standard using the GSLC that minimizes the
> problems inherent with the design.  We run all AC leads to adjacent load
> centers and we try to minimize the DC breakers in the cabinet.  It is our
> goal to completely eliminate all breakers from the removable dead-front.  I
> think it is pretty self-explanatory why one would not prefer to make
> connections in a hard to reach location.
>
>
> Our goal is to constantly improve our installation procedures to create
> better, safer and more efficient installations.
>
>
> Also, I don’t need someone to instruct me on how to make a “finished”
> looking install. If you are familiar with my work you know it is as clean
> as it gets.  Review my web site.  Below is but one example of one of our
> installs.
>
>
> And lastly, “suck it up” is not a very complimentary phrase.  Please,
> let’s keep it professional.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
> <image007.jpg>
>
> Figure 1 Factory wired GSLC
>
>
> <image008.jpg>
>
> Figure 2 Miller Solar installed GSLC..
>
>
> <image009.jpg>
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/>
> 805-438-5600
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chris Mason
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 3:40 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Recombiner
>
>
> The GSLC gives the system a nice finished appearance that the customer
> will understand. Suck it up and live with the imperfect world we function
> in.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:55 PM, William Miller <william at millersolar.com>
> wrote:
>
> Friends:
>
>
> I am looking for a PV recombiner.  I need to accept the outputs from 3
> remote PV Combiners, send those outputs through GFP circuit breakers, into
> charge controllers, back thorough breaker, into a bus bar, through a main
> breaker and onto a large battery bank.
>
>
> I am using 2 Outback Radian inverters, but I refuse to install DC breakers
> on their dead-front because wiring to studs facing away from the front is
> an inferior design.  Furthermore, I see no need to run PV circuits through
> the GSLC cabinets.
>
>
> I looked at the Midnite MNDC15 but again, these use panel mounted breakers
> with studs on the back.
>
>
> Anyone know of a more thoughtfully designed PV recombiner?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
>
> <image003.jpg>
> Lic 773985
> millersolar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/>
> 805-438-5600
>
>
>
>
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