[RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class

[Dan Fink]

I and others recently finished working with IREC on developing  an online
basic solar training program for firefighters. It's live online on the IAFF
website and is free. I'm in a remote location now with only satellite email
and don't have the link but it's something like iaff/pv safety.

I also offer a NABCEP registered CEU train the trainer class for pv
installers contact me off list.

I will try to address some topics brought up in this thread as this
horrible internet service permits.....and can do so in detail when I'm back
in civilization next week.

On Sep 20, 2016 11:25 AM, <dan at foxfire-energy.com> wrote:

> Hey Charles, would you direct me to your reference "you’ll notice that
> foam does not work and should not be used."? I've found reference in this
> and other articles that states roughly 'like tarps, foam can not be relied
> upon to completely reduce array voltage to zero', but no where can I find
> the statement that states for the average Fire Fighter, a heavy foam is not
> a fast, safe and effective method of reducing array voltage in a PV array
> in an emergency situation - using equipment readily available. IMHO 20VDC
> is much preferable to 480VDC.
>
> Thank You. db
>
>
>
> Dan Brown
> Foxfire Energy Corp.
> Renewable Energy Systems
> (802)-483-2564
> www.Foxfire-Energy.com
> NABCEP #092907-44
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fire fighters safety class
> From: Charles Picard <cpicard at solarcity.com>
> Date: Tue, September 20, 2016 1:27 pm
> To: "palumbo131m at gmail.com" <palumbo131m at gmail.com>
> Cc: "re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org"
> <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> These are some great questions you’re asking, and you’ve prompted some
> interesting responses. I’ve been partnered up with a career firefighter for
> the past 2yrs teaching this subject, and have a few thoughts for you:
>
> Review the NFPA’s recommended best practices for interactions with PV, you
> can find that free training here https://lms.ulknowledgeservices.com/
> catalog/display.resource.aspx?resourceid=352901
>
> The training is based on this research: https://www.google.com/url?sa=
> t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi_
> 67iyt57PAhWDTSYKHd57DREQFggjMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ul.com%
> 2Fglobal%2Fdocuments%2Fofferings%2Findustries%2Fbuildingmaterials%
> 2Ffireservice%2FPV-FF_SafetyFinalReport.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEHXYPQ5_R0p-_
> QDW8fRvEYFx1xUg&sig2=W0zmY8dwh3D2EXk1XucXMA
>
> That will get you headed in the right direction. As my colleague says, you
> can still “Put the wet stuff on the red stuff” but you need to understand
> the rules you’re playing by.  This study does address how arrays may be
> de-energized, you’ll notice that foam does not work and should not be used.
>
> You’ll likely find the level of understanding on Li-Ion technology is
> woefully lacking, even amongst PV industry professionals. If you’re going
> to tackle the subject, I recommend doing a little research on the types of
> construction and chemistries used. Too often folks lead their presentations
> with exploding hoverboards or stories about the FAA ban. In reality these
> are apples to oranges comparisons. For the Powerwall specifically, they
> have published an Emergency Response Guide that is publically available.
> They have also released results of a burn-test study that is very
> informative.
>
> There are a few YouTube videos floating around as well. Captain Matt Paiss
> has some publicly available, and recently collaborated with the IAFF and
> IREC to create some online training content that looks very good.
>
> Feel free to contact me directly with any questions.
>
>
> *Charles Picard*
> Sr. Compliance Engineer | SolarCity <http://www.solarcity.com>
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