[RE-wrenches] Sonnen Battery & Outback Radian Inverter

frenergy frenergy at psln.com
Sat Jun 18 21:44:12 PDT 2016


Mark,

             We humans many times make quite a stumble when we take a 
big new step (grid tied solar plus L-ion storage with the brains to 
manage all of it).  I agree with you on one hand, we'll probably 
screw-up the first few iterations.  On the other hand I feel pretty 
confident that my sensor laden, computer driven, signal processing, 
technology burdened truck will get me from point A to point B with few 
worries and for many miles.  I think we'll figure this out as there is a 
very powerful incentive to do so.

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net

On 6/18/2016 9:06 AM, Mark Frye wrote:
>
> What could be simpler?
>
> For some reason I can't help think of the Great Leap Forward in Chine 
> where Mao had all the peasants gathering up all the iron objects and 
> melting them down in small furnaces to help increase steel production. 
> Of course none of the "steel" was any good.
>
> I guess it is because here I see a bunch of great industrial control 
> equipment stuffed into a tiny box and dropped in someones basement. 
> That's alot of stuff waiting to break or hang up or reset or something.
>
> I really have to wonder what the operating state of this piece of 
> equipment will be in 3 years and if still operational, how many 
> person-hours of support and maintenance will have been expended.
>
> Mark Frye
>
> On 6/18/2016 4:48 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
>> Here's the internals of the one we installed.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0ie2tuqe7y1x9d/2016-06-15%2011.01.43.jpg?dl=0
>> It's a Radian, the batteries are Sony, there's a PLC in the door 
>> controlling everything, and a Vera Z-Wave controller for the 
>> programmable outlets.
>> The BMS is on the door, connected by the long cable you see at the 
>> bottom. It's not really long enough, which I complained about.
>> The transfer switch is a Generac component, very reliable unit, rated 
>> at 200A.
>> There is a DIN rail next to the inverter that holds all the internal 
>> wiring, metering, external connections.
>> One thing I would advocate, never try to make any connections with 
>> this unit powered up. It is very tight in there and the risk of 
>> touching a live terminal is high.
>> There is a 200A main breaker and a battery breaker, which is software 
>> controlled for powering down from the front panel. Startup requires 
>> holding in a DC breaker for the electronics for a few seconds then 
>> engaging the main battery breaker. The instructions says five seconds 
>> but I find it takes about 15.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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