[RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

[jay]

I want to add here that this whole thread came about because of a special and unusual need that a client of mine had. I received a few comments about why was I doing it this way. But the client wanted it this way, and I agreed so my job was to make it happen, with I did.  

With the help of many people from outback ( whom I’d like to thank all of them very much)  we did come up with a fix, which is what Lones has described below. 

And this customer is very savvy, and knows how to get around the M3.  His normal mode is a standard volt/% AGS start.  When he is done with this odd situation he will put the Generator mode back to AC from DC.  

Sincerely,

Jay Peltz







> On May 9, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Lones Tuss <ltuss at outbackpower.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Fellow Wrenches
> 
>  Due to customer feedback OutBack decided to automatically enable the Inverters Ac Charger
> if the Mate(3) called for an AGS (gen run) condition.  The general opinion here is if the gen is running you might as well allow it to charge your batteries. Before we did this there were instances of generators running for hours/days before the end user discovered he had set the charger to OFF. 
> 
> That being said if charging by the inverter is not desired during a Gen run there
> are several methods which will allow charging to be disabled.
> 
> The method you use will more than likely depend on your situation.
> If you wish to stop charging for the current gen run simply turn the Charge Off after the gen is running.
> On the Mate3 press the Charger Button select OFF.
> On the Mate and Mate2 press the AC Input button three times
> the Charger can be turned  OFF there.
> 
> If it is necessary to turn the charger off on a more permanent basis there are a couple of different approaches.
> One method is to go to the inverter charger menu and set the absorb and float timers to zero.
> Another method and perhaps the easiest would be to change the gen type to DC or None.
> Of these two I would suggest DC as the preferred choice.
> After setting the Inverter Charger to Off follow the path as described below 
> 
> 
> On the Mate3 press the 
> LOCK button
> Enter 141
> Select 
> Settings then
> System  then 
> System Information
> change Gen Type to DC or None.
> If the inverters charger is disabled it will remain so when AGS calls for a gen run.
> On the Mate or Mate2
> In the AGS program menu select DC gen and the Auto Charge feature will be negated.
> 
> The above will work if the gen run is caused by the following AGS triggers.
> Load Start, Must Run, Generator Exercise
> If the gen run condition is a Voltage Start the trigger to turn the gen off is the batteries must reach the Absorb Voltage for the Absorb Time.
> If the gen run condition is SOC the trigger to turn the gen off is the batteries must reach
> the end SOC set point.
> These points may be unachievable with the inverters charger set to OFF.
> If this is the case lack of fuel may be the gen stop reason.
> 
> Lones Tuss
> Applications Engineer
> OutBack Power Technologies
> 17825 59th Ave NE, Suite B, Arlington, WA 98223
> 360.618.4383 Office | 425.213.8794 Cell
> www.outbackpower.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Darren Emmons
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question
> 
> When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower the charger AC limit to 0 Amps.
> 
> 08:00 Inverter charger OFF
> 10:00 Must run start -> charger ON
> 11:00 Must run stop -> charger OFF
> 
>> Darren
> 
>