[RE-wrenches] Storage Batteries for dwellings -Canadian Code

[Dan Fink]

Thank you Jay!

Dan Fink
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Jay <jay.peltz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi dan
>
> The sonnen is the Sony battery. 48v packs. No problem.
>
> Jay
> Peltz power
>
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> On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Dan Fink <danbob88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I wonder how this code will apply to the new SonnenBatterie system, which
> uses a high-voltage lithium battery bank adapted to an Outback Radian
> integrated into the cabinet. I'm guessing it will be the same...the
> user-accessible side will be 48VDC.
>
> Dan Fink
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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Chris Mason <cometenergysystems at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> The Powerwall is an integrated product,  not a battery you install. There
>> is no user access to the internal voltage. Our Nissan Leaf stores at 500v
>> but it's not restricted for the same reason. There are plenty of commercial
>> UPS products that use very high villages but the user had no access to the
>> internals.
>> On Apr 8, 2016 1:06 AM, "Benn Kilburn" <benn at skyfireenergy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wrenches,
>>> Section 64 of the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code covers Renewable Energy
>>> Systems.
>>> Rule 64-800(3) states...
>>>
>>>    1.
>>>
>>>    Storage batteries for dwelling units shall have the cells connected
>>>    so as to operate at less than 50 V nominal.
>>>
>>> Note the word "for".  It appears that this rule may restrict the use of
>>> higher voltage lithium ion batteries (PowerWall and similar Panasonic home
>>> storage that i've heard of) FOR dwellings regardless of where it is
>>> installed (detached or attached garage or even a separate shed)
>>>
>>> Based on the short text that i've included, does anyone interpret it
>>> differently or know of another rule in the CEC that may be a work-around?
>>>
>>> For the NEC'ers... i only have a copy of the 2011 NEC and haven't read
>>> it cover to cover yet ;) but is there a similar rule in there regarding
>>> storage battery voltage FOR dwellings?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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