[RE-wrenches] Enphase M190 current limiting

Louis Woofenden louis at woofenden.net
Mon Feb 8 08:25:51 PST 2016


FYI, our affected systems with Enphase M190s are back to normal as of 
Saturday morning. I hope that's the case for others as well.

Cheers,
Louis

Rebecca Lundberg wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I reported it to Enphase but have not heard back 
> yet. Since one of these updates happened 5 months ago I was surprised 
> the manufacturer hadn't notified installers in the interim before they 
> did a more wide spread update, which is why I wrote to this list. I'm 
> not in tech support, but seeing what it did to our inverter back 5 
> months ago I certainly wouldn't have continued the 'upgrade' and 
> pushed that firmware update to the rest of the units! I think most 
> people didn't notice so they just went ahead. I know MN temperatures 
> are more extreme than other parts of the country so perhaps we've seen 
> more failures than others have. But this site with 8 M190s was doing 
> just fine before the 'update.'
>
> Rebecca
>
>
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>     Louis Woofenden
>     Sent: Wednesday, 03 February, 2016 11:48
>     To: RE-wrenches
>     Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase M190 current limiting
>
>
>     Hi Rebecca and all,
>
>     We're experiencing the same thing on several M190 sites, though
>     not all. Interestingly, M190s that have been replaced are not
>     having the same problem.
>
>     According to Enphase, it is a software problem. My understanding
>     is that they are rolling back software updates on affected devices
>     to solve the problem, but I'm not clear on the exact order that
>     will happen.
>
>     Not sure if being a squeaky wheel on particular systems is going
>     to hurt or help. Kind of disappointing that they didn't properly
>     beta test any software updates on all types of microinverter
>     devices before rolling them out to all customers. Seems like that
>     would be common sense.
>
>     Best,
>     Louis
>
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>     Luke Christy wrote:
>
>
>
>     Hi Rebecca,
>
>     After you posted this I looked at the power production history for
>     several of our Enphase sites with M190s, and the same thing is
>     happening. Inverter output is being clipped at 140W across the board.
>
>     This seems like a pretty big deal in terms of potential lost
>     production for a lot of users.
>
>
>
>     Have you brought this up with Enphase?
>
>
>
>     -Luke
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>     On Jan 31, 2016, at 21:08, Rebecca Lundberg
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>     I just noticed that several of our sites with Enphase M190s are
>     current limiting at 140 watts. These units used to clip at 199
>     watts so I feel like our customers just lost a potential 30% of
>     their power output. It appears to be related to a firmware update
>     520-00008-r01-v01.08.00. We've got one site with just 8 units, 1
>     of them got this firmware update back in September and has been
>     limiting to 140w since then, 5 of them got this update in late
>     January and have been limiting to 140w since then, the other two
>     are at a previous firmware version and are performing as we would
>     expect up to 199w. Have any of you noticed this same thing? Do you
>     know what this is about? It doesn't feel very fair on the user end
>     of things.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>
>     Rebecca Lundberg
>     Powerfully Gree
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>     ? n?
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>     Minnesota
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