[RE-wrenches] Module recommendation for a specific off grid situation

[Jay]

Hi Allan

Backwoods has 190 watt 72 cell for good pricing. 

They are roughly the same physical size as the 165's they have. 

Good luck

Jay
Peltz power 

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> On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Allan Sindelar <allan at sindelarsolar.com> wrote:
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> Todd, thanks, but I rejected them. They'd be a traditional match as 36-cell modules, but they're way expensive (nearly $2/W Dlr.) and it would take 6 or 8 of them (140W these days) to get the ~kilowatt I'd like. It would work but I'm trying to keep the cost down. 
> Allan
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> Allan Sindelar
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>> On 12/14/2015 2:29 PM, toddcory at finestplanet.com wrote:
>> how about two of these in series?
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>> todd
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>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 12:37pm, "Allan Sindelar" <allan at sindelarsolar.com> said:
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>> Wrenches,
>> I enjoy the good feeling when I successfully integrate new with old - sort of a steampunk approach. Here's an example for which I could use the Collective Wisdom:
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>> A customer wants to upgrade a chronically small array on a maybe 10yo small off grid system done reasonably well by others. The array is four 165W Siemens (Solarworld) 72-cell modules on a top-of-pole rack, feeding an Outback MX60 controller on a 24V battery bank. To save cost in our rocky soil I'd like to add four large modern modules on a fixed ground mount rack, set fixed at latitude +5° for winter-focused gain. But most of the modern 72-cell modules use 156mm cells and are around 300W or higher. 1200W plus the existing 660W is 1860W, and that exceeds what the original MX60 is rated to handle. 
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>> I know I could replace the controller with a Classic, but I wonder if there's a smaller compatible 72-cell module at a             reasonable price. Any suggestions?
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>> I also think it would be best to use a module with a lower Vmp than I'd expect from the older Siemens modules, given that they're likely degraded a little in voltage over ten years (originally 35.3 Vmp rated). Does that make sense? So what if I used four 60-cell modules, expecting their higher current to pull the voltage of the original modules back a bit toward Isc. How much would that lose? I'll bet it             wouldn't be much, and the cost would be low for the common modules, especially those with lower 240W rating or below. Again, any thoughts, please? And any suggestions of particular modules? 
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>> Thanks,
>> Allan
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>> Allan Sindelar
>> allan at sindelarsolar.com
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>> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
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>> Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
>> 505 780-2738 cell
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