[RE-wrenches] Enphase monitoring picking up other systems

Chris Mason cometenergysystems at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 17:07:18 PDT 2014


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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Nick Soleil <nsoleil at enphaseenergy.com>wrote:

> Hi Benn,
>
> You can remove the microinverters from an Envoy, but it requires a laptop
> and a network cable.  Call me and we can talk.  We have a lot of big
> projects with home builders, and I am more than happy to share our best
> practices with you.  My cell number is 707-321-2937.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Benn Kilburn <benn at skyfireenergy.com>wrote:
>
>> August,
>> I'm being told that "we" (as opposed to "Enhpase") cannot delete or
>> remove rogue inverters from the Array Builder.  Enphase has to do this
>> step.   And if you just don't include the rogue inverters in the Array
>> Builder you are building for a particular system, you will still receive
>> the production data from the rogues.  (2nd hand info, so......?)
>>
>> Louis,
>> Since some of these are home builder's 'show homes' and new home builds,
>> there is the possibility that internet has not always been set up yet, so
>> in some of these cases the inverters may not have been dedicated to a
>> particular Envoy yet.
>>
>> If "we" cannot remove rogue inverters from a particular Envoy, then we
>> will likely just send the serial numbers of the Envoy and respective
>> inverters to Enphase and let them sort it out.
>>
>> We may consider the Array Gun scanner option.
>>
>> Anyone else have any feedback on this option?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benn
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Louis Woofenden <louis at woofenden.net>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Benn,
>>>
>>> We've run into these problems when simultaneously commissioning systems
>>> in adjacent units of a housing development where we did PV systems on all
>>> homes, and 2-3 homes are on one utility transformer. I'm a little surprised
>>> that the Envoy picked up inverters from an existing system, unless those
>>> microinverters were never associated with another Envoy. My understanding
>>> from Enphase is that once they are "bound" to one Envoy, they won't be
>>> easily picked up in a device scan. But maybe I'm missing something, or got
>>> bad info from tech support.
>>>
>>> We've definitely had to work with Enphase tech support on a couple of
>>> systems to remove inverters from one Envoy, then do a device scan on
>>> another Envoy, as August suggested. Another option is to spend the money
>>> for the Array Gun scanner (SocketMobile CHS7xi scanner), and use the iOS
>>> Enphase Installer Toolkit app to build arrays and "provision" the Envoy,
>>> sending the inverter serial numbers directly to the Envoy, without need for
>>> a device scan. Not sure if this is worth it at the $450 retail price for
>>> the scanner, but if you can find one used, it might be. I recently was able
>>> to pick one up for about $250 used.
>>>
>>> Haven't yet had issues serious enough to require LCFs on residential
>>> systems. Crossing my fingers on that one.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Louis Woofenden
>>>
>>> Net Zero Solar, Tucson, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/14/14, 9:08 AM, Benn Kilburn wrote:
>>>
>>>  Wrenches,
>>> I'm sure i read a thread on this list about dealing with this, i've
>>> searched but cannot find it.  If anyone recalls the subject line, please
>>> let me know.
>>>
>>>  We are dealing with setting up Enphase monitoring in neighborhoods
>>> with other Enphase systems nearby and these 'other' systems are being
>>> picked up by the EMU.
>>>
>>>  A few weeks ago we finished a 14 module (3.5kW) install and i plugged
>>> in the EMU to search for the inverters.  As it was picking up the first few
>>> inverters, it was showing several hundred kWh already produced???  Not bad
>>> for a 14 module system being in operation for 10 min!!!  (yes the inverters
>>> were new, out of the box)
>>>
>>>  After 30-40 min, the EMU had picked up 28 inverters in total.  There
>>> were 14 on the system we had just installed, and 14 on a house across the
>>> street that we had installed back in Nov'13.  I'm pretty sure it had picked
>>> up the 14 across the street before picking up the ones we just installed.
>>> Funny that we can sometimes have communication issues btwn the inverters
>>> and EMU in some houses, and here we have EMU's picking up inverters across
>>> the street!?!
>>>
>>>  Anywho... has anyone dealt with this and streamlined a process with
>>> Enphase to remedy this issue?
>>>
>>>  Cheers,
>>> Benn
>>>
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