[RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: 72-cell modules

Howie Michaelson howie at suncatchervt.com
Fri Jan 31 11:03:26 PST 2014


Hi Allan,

It's been a little while, but we have sourced them from SunWize.

Good Luck,
Howie
-- 
Howie Michaelson
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™

Catamount Solar, LLC
Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
VT Solar Electric & Hot Water Incentive Partner
http://www.CatamountSolar.com
802-272-0004


On Fri, January 31, 2014 1:52 pm, Allan Sindelar wrote:
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>     Whoops - where's the "unsend" button on my keyboard?<br>
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>     I was wrong about 1. - they're still 72 cell. But I still know of
>     nowhere to buy them in the US.<br>
>     Allan <br>
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>       <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Chris,<br>
>         Yes, but no. Two problems: <br>
>         1. Panasonic went to 60 cell and 96 cell modules and dropped the
>         72 cell modules.<br>
>         2. According to a rep at Focused Energy, you can't buy Panasonic
>         in the US any more. They're way more interested in the domestic
>         market in Japan.<br>
>         Thanks, though.<br>
>         Allan<br>
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>         On 1/31/2014 9:03 AM, Chris Worcester wrote:<br>
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>           <p class="MsoNormal"><span
> style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That
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>               is about the dimension of the Panasonic/Sanyo if you want
>               to up the output too!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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>                   <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
>                   <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:37 PM<br>
>                   <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
>                   <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] 72-cell
> modules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>           <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
>           <p class="MsoNormal">Wrenches,<br>
>             About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules
>             with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a
>             few years ago. Now we really need some.<br>
>             <br>
>             We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid
>             system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun
>             trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V
>             strings of three modules each.<br>
>             <br>
>             Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were
>             replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or
>             are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has
>             agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at
>             $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or
>             send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The
>             problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules,
>             which won't fit the trackers.<br>
>             <br>
>             BP got out of the solar business before the standard
>             configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have
>             appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty
>             stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured
>             by BP, so that they would more readily replace their
>             warranty failures. That apparently is not to be.<br>
>             <br>
>             The SX170s are 31.1" (790mm) by 62.8" (1593 mm). I need to
>             locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension
>             range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that
>             the replacements can be fit to the racks.<br>
>             <br>
>             Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen
>             that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of
>             their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the
>             morning. Any other suggestions, please?<br>
>             <br>
>             Thank you,<br>
>             Allan<br>
>             -- <o:p></o:p></p>
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>             <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
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